A new conversation with Fighting for the Faith 8

If you want to take a 60-minute break from reading, here’s an interview I did with my friend Chris Rosebrough of Fighting for the Faith a few days ago.

8 thoughts on “A new conversation with Fighting for the Faith

  1. Moses Model Jan 16, 2013 4:52 pm

    I enjoyed it greatly. It is hard to believe that someone could treat another human being that way.

  2. Ryan Jan 16, 2013 6:46 pm

    WOW…what a sad story, and I’m so sorry for what you and your family have been put through.

    Would love to hear your thoughts about the benefits of continuing to blog about this and be interviewed etc. It seems that the issue was “settled” in court and it seems like it would be both healing and prudent to let the issue remain “settled”.

    Feels a little bit like you are having your cake and eating it, too. You were compensated for your suffering (and rightfully so, it seems), the case is “settled” out of court…but you continue keep it in spotlight.

    Again, I can’t imagine what it would be like to go through this ordeal…but at what point are you guilty of fanning the flames. He admitted some level of wrong-doing by being willing to settle. You have probably cashed a check or two. Why the need to keep it going?

  3. Ryan Jan 16, 2013 6:48 pm

    OOOPS…just got to the part of the interview where you explain why you are blogging about it. Question answered!

  4. concernedparent Jan 17, 2013 12:04 pm

    Rosebrough suggests that if 100K people join Newspring it will be a problem for SC. I am interested in perspectives on why this would be a problem. So far my observation is that NS has begun to cause social divisiveness in existing healthy friendships or relationships, particularly among students in our public schools.

  5. SallyVee Jan 17, 2013 2:49 pm

    This is a MUST hear briefing. Please take the time to listen and ponder and pass it on, especially to anyone you know in S. Carolina.

    In response to the question above – why would it be a problem for SC if 100,000 people joined New Spring – offhand I’d say one problem would be the indication of utter stupidity of so many people following a circus clown like lemmings, and presumably supporting the clown financially as if he/it was a legitimate organization. (It’s terrifying enough that the number is already over 10,000!) Second problem is the fascist behavior on full display, carried on without remorse or ceasing, even after a lawsuit was brought by Mr. Duncan. Another problem, and the most serious, is the absence of the Gospel being taught or proclaimed… potentially leading a great many people to their damnation.

    Another problem that goes without saying is the irritation of massive number of zombies walking around loose in traffic (think: Invasion of the Body Snatchers).

  6. Soli Deo Gloria Jan 17, 2013 3:28 pm

    Thanks for linking to this. It really is a must-listen. I would say that the biggest pastoral issue that Chris brings up is that of questioning who Perry suggests “the dogs” are who should just be ignored whenever they say ANYTHING even remotely negative about NS. The answer, which I hadn’t thought about before but that Perry is very explicit about, is that NS’ers should just ignore input from those who are the most important people in your life – your Christian parents. This spits in the face of honoring our parents – Perry is saying their advice should just be ignored! Disturbing, indeed.

  7. Richard Jan 17, 2013 4:39 pm

    I pastor in SC, and in an area where NS has a campus. I am concerned on a number of fronts. This sad incident with Dr. Duncan is what I think are the firstfruits of things to come. You will reap what you sow, and Noble and his crew have never truly repented. The heart issues, theological issues, and structural issues are still very much there. I fear that more fruit like what Dr. Duncan experienced will happen; especially as more people see just how unhealthy NS is, and begin to speak out publically.

  8. Jordan Jan 18, 2013 8:29 pm


    I just graduated (this past May) from a college near Anderson (well, an hour-ish away), and my experience with the NS attendees among the student population (they went to the Greenville campus) is that these churchgoers in particular are the most immature Christians who have been following Christ, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing (as it could simply be that they are young in the faith), except that they’ve been encouraged to continue being immature in their faith.

    What makes it worse is that these kids (and kids they are) for the most part became very difficult to teach and converse with about spiritual things (this was not universally true, but I can name only one exception, who is now going to seminary). On a couple occasions, these students essentially said “well, Perry is a pastor, and your saying something he disagrees with, so you’re wrong!” Very disturbing for a Christian to say about any man.

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