Clayton King and his fantastic world of death, drownings and disembowelments 6

I once heard of a seminary professor who told his class of aspiring pastors that whenever a preacher starts a sermon with a personal story, he starts his sermon with a lie. It’s hyperbole, but it makes a good point: when preachers base their spiritual lessons on personal stories, we have a problem if those stories aren’t true.

I had the occasion a couple of weeks ago to hear some friends talking about some of the remarkable stories from Clayton King’s 2010 book, Dying to Live: Abandoning Yourself to God’s Bold Paradox. My friends had read a couple of amazing stories from King’s book, were quite shaken by them, and incorporated them into a devotional based on King’s teaching.

The problem was, what they were reading wasn’t true.

The Sadistic SEALs

In Chapter 12, entitled Suffering for a Purpose, King recounts a meeting with a man purporting to be a Navy SEAL who tells him the following:

The man told me that they would deny this, but he claimed he was locked in a casket and buried alive, underground, where he remained for 24 hours with no food, water, light, or movement. This exercise in mental suffering was designed to make him tough, to teach him to discipline his mind and the thoughts he was thinking when death seemed imminent and rescue unlikely. It also forced his mind to exercise authority over his body by telling his muscles not to cramp and his heart rate not to jump, avoiding the onset of panic, which would bring on hyperventilation and possibly even cardiac arrest. (p. 100)

By prefacing the story with “they would deny this,” the story becomes conveniently irrefutable. In a case like this, King ought to have scrutinized the man’s claim carefully. Although he explains in some detail what the purpose of this exercise is, there’s no evidence that King ever considered whether this was even possible. Because being buried alive is a familiar theme in horror movies, the question of how long one could survive is one that has been quite well studied. Popular Mechanics concluded that no man can survive in a buried coffin for more than about two hours, not even a Navy SEAL.

Although King couched the burial story as a claim from his friend, the next astonishing detail comes from King himself.

The final challenge came when each recruit was thrown into frigid water, held under by the other recruits, and drowned when their lungs filled with water. Then it was the job of the rest of the team to revive and resuscitate the recruit. To join this elite unit, you had to literally die and be brought back to life. (p. 100-101) [Emphasis added]

To be clear, King is talking about real death, not just soldiers passing out. He believes, and would have us believe, that the U.S. military actually kills its own people. Even more remarkably, the SEALs have a fail-proof technique of resuscitating drowning victims. This is a real scandal, if true. Why hasn’t our government passed these skills on to life guards, who could be saving so many more lives each year than they already do? Actually, if you can resuscitate someone after pulling him from the water, he nearly drowned. If he actually drowned, he’s dead, and there’s no coming back from that, no matter how skilled his helpers.

Now, perhaps King got confused about the actual SEALs’ practice of drown-proofing their soldiers, during which some of them pass out. Those that do are rescued before they drown by attendants with scuba equipment, after which some are given another chance. If they continue to pass out, they fail the test and don’t become SEALs.

The problem with reality is that it contradicts King’s thesis. Fantasy fits his spiritual lesson much better.

If King’s readers don’t stop reading after the SEALs story, they have an even better story in store in his penultimate chapter.

The Indestructible Indian Preacher

The Paul Prassad story, which unfolds over four consecutive Sundays, ought to be a movie, if true. Here’s how Clayton King says it went down:

Week 1

Outraged that Pastor Paul Prassad, from a conveniently ambiguous “large city in India,” is baptizing converts, Hindu extremists stop by his church and tell him, “as a courtesy” that he wasn’t welcome in the city. After the sermon, they take him out into the street and beat him until he is bruised and bloodied. He’s also told that if he comes back next week, the men will kill him.

King explains how baptism, which he calls the “final step in a total conversion,” is an extremely profound step because these new converts are dying to their old, unconverted families. Only brave pastors and brave new converts dare participate in baptism.

Week 2

Prassad, undeterred by the threat, returns the next Sunday to preach. The Hindu thugs wait in the back of the church and take him out into the street again, this time beating him so badly that they break his bones. Prassad’s own congregation stood back and watched without offering help, we’re told, “for the fear of the fate that would await them, the same fate he was suffering” (p. 151).

At this point, the story remains credible. Voice of the Martyrs has documented instances of Indian Christians being beaten and murdered by Hindu extremists, just as King is claiming here. I do wonder, however, what happened to the congregation who were apparently brave enough to die through baptism, but not brave enough to protect their pastor from a few unarmed thugs, especially when the congregation had to have known that the threat was coming.

Week 3

His broken bones treated, Prassad returns to preach, and the same men stand in the back of the church waiting to punish him after the service. This time, they’re really serious.

They stripped him naked to embarrass and shame him, an unthinkable experience for anyone in Indian culture but particularly for a man. Then they opened his mouth and poured battery acid down his throat. While several men held him down, another man pummeled him in the stomach to make him swallow the acid. The flesh inside his mouth, his gums, his throat and esophagus, were all scorched and burned raw.

Then they took a long metal rod with a razor-sharp pointed end. And without going into detail, by the time they were finished with Pastor Paul, he was lying on the street with his intestines beside him, on the ground, outside of his body. They had disemboweled this man simply for proclaiming the gospel. They left him lying in his own blood and waste, certain he would die in a matter of moments. (p. 152)

Prassad survives by having his intestines removed and having a colostomy bag attached to his side. King explains that the miracle was because the grace of the gospel had changed Prassad “to such a degree that the option of dying [was] simply not on the table, because it would leave unfinished the work of preaching the love of God to those who need it most.”

Some questions:

  1. Where were the police? Apparently this was a large city with a modern-enough hospital to treat Prassad and return him to work the next week (see Week 4), but the church didn’t ask the police for help. After two weeks of assaults, Prassad and his congregation knew who these people were.
  2. Why, again, did the congregation stand by and let their pastor suffer this? If they’re brave enough to be baptized, which is King’s point here, why won’t they risk life and limb for their pastor? As far as I can tell by reading the story, the congregation vastly outnumbered the criminals.
  3. What’s so special about masculine nudity? Are Indian women not ashamed to be stripped naked in public? King’s sensitivity to this seems more personal than logical.
  4. How did he survive the battery acid? The National Institutes of Health advise that swallowing battery acid to the extent that Prassad did would require the removal of his stomach and esophagus, if he survived it at all. He wouldn’t be preaching the next week (see Week 4), no matter how much he wanted to.
  5. How did he survive the disembowelment? Although partial disembowelment can be survived in some instances, the total evisceration that King describes is the stuff of historical torture and execution.
  6. Why don’t we find this story anywhere else? You’d expect that this event would become legendary, though the only place I can find this story, or even a Pastor Prassad who might have done this, is in King’s book, which itself doesn’t provide any further documentation of the story. A Google search shows how little remarked on this remarkable story is. Bing returned a completely empty page. King met Prassad in 1997, and the assault would have had to be before that, so perhaps this anonymous city’s newspapers weren’t online yet. Even so, it’s the kind of story that you’d expect would be retold by Indian Christians online for centuries, if true.

    A Google search for "Paul Prassad" and assault turns up almost empty.

    A Google search for “Paul Prassad” and assault turns up almost empty.

  7. What was God’s purpose in this miracle? King’s explanation for the miraculous survival seems to contradict his central thesis, that Prassad was willing to die for proclaiming his faith; instead, we learn that he had such a will to live so he could keep preaching that he refused to die. Why did God need Prassad so badly that he was able to get up and walk away, in contrast to all the eviscerated Christian martyrs through the ages who perished in terrible pain? Didn’t God also need those saints to keep preaching? Why was Prassad so special, especially now that he seems to have vanished after this amazing miracle? What a waste. If this really happened, for the sake of God’s glory this miraculous sign should be publicized well beyond King’s book.

Week 4

Undeterred after losing his throat, esophagus, stomach, and the rest of his digestive tract, and with bones freshly broken from just two weeks earlier, Pastor Prassad decides to preach the very next Sunday. How he had a voice, we’re not told. How he got out of the hospital so soon, we’re not told. How the men who had attempted to murder him were still at large and confident enough to turn up in his church again, we’re not told. Why his congregation didn’t stay home hiding in shame for their passivity over the last three weeks, we’re not told. Why the congregation didn’t restrain the Hindu gang on their fourth visit to the church, we’re not told.

Instead, King tells us the inspirational story of one of the gang calling out during Prassad’s preaching and asking to be saved and baptized.

The man walked forward in utter brokenness, and Paul was able to embrace one of the very people who just a week earlier had forced him to death’s door. They stood weeping and praying together as the Hindu became a Christian. He had received forgiveness. (p. 153)

They stood and embraced. With broken bones. With a fresh new colostomy. With the top half of his digestive tract burned, and the bottom half gone.



Why This Matters


The blurb on the back of King’s book promises “20 bold pictures from Scripture, his own life, and the lives of others that will … grip your soul with longing for the life Jesus promised [and] stir up your passion for God’s mission.” I’ve shown you that two of those pictures are false. There’s also a third fictional picture about a wealthy depressed woman and a psychiatrist who prescribes community service for her (p. 128). Although King introduces the account as a story he’d read, suggesting it might be fiction, four pages later he concludes with “It worked,” and tells his readers that Jesus wants them to live a life of service as well.

Whenever King paints a picture from others’ lives, we’re too often seeing mirages. From these, King expects us to learn life-changing spiritual lessons.


The same blurb that promised the 20 bold pictures describes King as a “pastor, evangelist, missionary, and author … dedicated to proclaiming the gospel and making disciples… [who] has spoken to millions of people in 30-plus countries.” Millions of people have looked to King to speak truth and provide spiritual guidance. How are we supposed to determine what parts of King’s messages are true, and which are fables?

If you’ve ever heard a King sermon, he seems to spend most of his time talking about Clayton King. In his book, he does too, but adds a few stories from others. In at least three instances, they are false. If we can’t trust his printed and verifiable stories about others, how can we possibly trust him to be telling the truth when he tells all the fantastic stories from his own life where he’s the only available witness?


A preacher’s or author’s propensity for invention or exaggeration only matters to the extent that his sermons or books stray from Scripture. Why does King feel a need to fill his sermons with so much extraneous material from his and others’ lives? Doesn’t he think that Scripture is sufficient for supporting its own teaching? When you construct moral lessons from the fictional experiences of Navy SEALs or Indian martyrs, you’re offering no higher truth than you can find anywhere else in our fallen culture. Self sacrifice, the topic of King’s book, has been a staple of religion, philosophy, martial arts and politics for millennia. Why not show how the Biblical idea of self-sacrifice differs from everyone else by focusing exclusively on Scripture?

Paul told Timothy to preach the word, not to preach interesting personal anecdotes.

What Now?

Accusing an author of inventing facts is a serious business, so before writing this I contacted King and asked if he could provide support for these claims, or, failing that, if he had retracted them. Having received no response, I assume that he cannot defend his claims. I hope that he will use his own blog to clear this up, as is customary when authors have their work publicly challenged. Perhaps his publisher will provide a response. I am ready to change my mind on the veracity of these stories, especially the Prassad story (it would be amazing and wonderful if this actually happened), though for now I’m convinced that the story is untrue.

6 thoughts on “Clayton King and his fantastic world of death, drownings and disembowelments

  1. Christy Oct 24, 2013 1:48 pm

    Thank you for this post. Being in the medical field, I’m always appreciative when people point out things that are physiologically impossible. This is off topic, but I didn’t see a way to contact you privately through this web site. I wanted to pass along this article in case you haven’t already seen it. The lavish lifestyle wasn’t surprising, but I was somewhat surprised to learn that it appears volunteers and members can be sued for disclosing this church’s finances.

  2. James Duncan Oct 24, 2013 2:28 pm

    Thanks, Christy. I have been following the Furtick story, which doesn’t surprise me at all. My basic position is that if the people who go to these big churches don’t demand accountability and transparency from their pastors, they apparently don’t mind if they get paid like royalty. If Furtick’s people don’t like what they’re learning about his house, the only option he has left them is to leave his church.

    Your comment reminds me that I should add a contact form to this site. I’ll see if I can figure out how to do that.

  3. BD Oct 25, 2013 12:19 am

    Glad to see you are blogging again.:^)

    I don’t know if you saw this:

    UK evangelist/author Tony Anthony was called out by the Evangelical Alliance, thanks to a couple of years of hard work by people in kung fu forums and a finally Christians.

    Tony Anthony lost his ministry, and in spite of being thoroughly discredited is trying to resurrect his er, career of ‘spreading the gospel’ in NZ.

    The EA report hasn’t been released for legal reasons, but at least there are people remaining vigilant in alerting media and in continuing to warn others.
    The Elim Church isn’t having him speak, the congregant apparently has been spoken to, and it seems she is going ahead anyway.

    I’ve no doubt Anthony will work his way back into a ‘Christian’ speaking circuit in time.
    I wonder why we don’t fear lying and deeply dread accepting lies before our Heavenly Father…

  4. Headless Unicorn Guy Oct 27, 2013 10:29 pm

    Regarding the alleged Navy SEAL source:

    1) Is this the classic FOAF (Friend of a Friend) source as in Urban Legends?

    2) Or a “Comrade Ogilvy” invented for the purpose?

    3) Or (least likely) could the alleged ex-SEAL exist but have been BSing the preacher man with a wild story?

    4) I remember a year or two ago some preacher who claimed to have been a Navy SEAL got exposed as BS by an actual ex-SEAL who keeps a SEAL personnel database to expose frauds. He said that you get a lot of guys who claim to be SEALs (or otherwise inflate or invent their military hero careers) and that a lot of them tend to be clergy for some reason.

    • James Duncan Oct 28, 2013 4:07 pm


      Good questions, and I really don’t know the answer. I’d like to think that King was simply misled by someone with no SEALs background who was just wanting to impress a preacher, but that seems unlikely. King says he’s fascinated by all things military, and that the “apex” of his fascination is with the SEALs. I’m not fascinated with the SEALs, but even I knew the man’s claims couldn’t have been true. Who knows what’s true about what King says? Perhaps he’s not fascinated at all, which is why he can been fooled so easily. Or perhaps this is an invented character (maybe like Prassad) and King didn’t expect to be questioned about it.

      The more you look at the SEALs story, the more slippery it becomes. He says he spent a couple of hours with the guy, who claimed to be a retired SEAL, yet King only asked him a couple of questions. He also says he asked the guy to show him his scars, which the SEAL did. If you’re getting that intimate with someone like that, surely you should have been able to discern that he was a fraud. The first clue was that he was telling him about their secret training (“they would deny this” about the burial story). King, who is supposedly fascinated by these guys, should have been smart enough to walk away and dismiss the guy as a fraud.

      One other thing about this, is that King’s not telling us this story as part of a casual conversation; this is in a book where he had the time and space to investigate and document his claims. If you’re spending all that time in your office writing the manuscript, why not a engage in a quick visit to Google or a call to the Pentagon to make sure you’re getting it right?

      Why not? Because it would spoil the higher spiritual truth he was trying to make.

  5. James Nov 6, 2013 4:10 pm

    Ok, so the story itself has no interest to me but I did want to point one thing out that I thought was absolutely hilarious in the comments.

    Headless stated that he has a “friend” who is an ex-SEAL who keeps a personnel database to expose frauds.

    All I want to say is simply this.
    The US Military keeps very minimal records of their own on all of their elite forces. Such as the Special Forces and the SEALS. These records are not just handed out to anyone and in many cases, the “teams” are not even capable of identifying each other. For anyone to claim that they keep a database is fictitious at best.
    Being ex military, and also having a TS Intel clearance while I was in, even if the gentleman did have a so-called database, being an ex-SEAL would deny him the privilege of keeping it current. There are far to many risks involved for our military to simply allow the names of our elite fighter groups to just be passed around.

    Second, as for the training that SEALS go thru, that I cannot witness to first hand. I can tell you that the training that the United States Army Special Forces goes thru is much more intense than a simply field day. But I can also tell you this, any true SEAL or Special Force member wouldn’t disclose such things. They take an oath upon joining those types of groups to keep the specifics of their training a secret.

    I agree that a little research and investigation should have went into Claytons book. But, can anyone of us sit back and tell others to research our sources when we do not do so ourselves?

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