Give me “authentic” advice, but make sure I agree with it first 9

Over on another outlet, Brad Cooper asked readers for advice for people going into the ministry. Our friend, Tommy, suggested in his usual diplomatic way that seminary might be a good idea.

A spirited discussion ensued and lasted on the site for about a day and a half.

Tonight, it’s been sucked down the memory hole. Deleted. Wiped. Gone.

Twit Conway was also annihilated.

That is bad blogging form. Here’s the proof from the way the site looked this afternoon.


One of Tommy’s comments was a response to Blake. Now we’re left with Blake’s response to Tommy, but not the argument he was responding to. It makes curious reading if you don’t know what happened.


The deleted discussion was about the merits of seminary, in counterpoint to NS’s repeated characterization of it as a cemetery. Twit Conway made the egregious error of quoting Spurgeon. (I assume that now that they no longer have to devote their time to two fora, they might reappear on these friendly pages and tell us what happened. T&T, did you get an explanation or notification from BCoop?)

Apparently disagreeable thoughts are too disturbing for some leaders. It would be nice if they could apply the same passion for ideological purity to what they put on stage during worship.

9 thoughts on “Give me “authentic” advice, but make sure I agree with it first

  1. Twit May 1, 2009 12:26 am

    Can’t say I got any explanation or notification from the Coopster so I’m not sure which part of my defence of scholarship(or Spurgeon’s exposition of Pauls request to Timothy to “bring books”) was offensive. I’d hope that it wasn’t just because it strayed from the NS ‘line’. That’d be disappointing.

  2. Twit May 1, 2009 12:34 am

    What amuses/annoys me is that we ASK NSers and BCoop to come and prosecute their case or defend their church practices here at PPages and give their ‘line’ almost no-one comes. But when two (two!) of us go play in their sandpit we get kicked out. And not for calling anyone there BAMF or quoting Dane Cook, but for (Tommy) drawing attenting to Scripture and (me) quoting Spurgeon. What’s with that?!? Where is the love?

  3. Twit May 1, 2009 12:42 am

    Comin’ at ya. BTW, I just went to BCoop’s blog to ask what was offensive about my quote, but comments on that post are closed.

  4. James Duncan May 1, 2009 12:47 am

    Thanks. It’s a shocking quote, folks. I can understand why NS needed to censor it. Twit, you should be ashamed.

    It’s too troubling to post tonight. You won’t be able to sleep.

    Look for it in the morning.

  5. Twit May 1, 2009 12:53 am

    Who knew CHS was BAMF?!

  6. James Duncan May 1, 2009 12:59 am

    Tommy hasn’t made an appearance yet. I imagine he’s taking this very well.

  7. Tommy F. May 1, 2009 7:56 am

    What is the nasty comment, worthy of being scrubbed? I posted crazy talk about ministers attending seminary (Gasp!).

    My substantive reply will be offered in the next few days – it won’t be a terribly long piece – but I want to make sure it says what I need it to say, in case someone from NS is able to delete it from PP, as well.

    All I’ll say for now is:
    1) we know Ace’s preferred way for handling disagreement among his congregation: he likes it when they leave (enemas – he told us).
    2) we know NS’s way to handle leadership “slight” differences: he likes it when they leave (call it enemas leadership-style).
    3) we now know how mature BCoop is when engaged in a polite (truly!) exchange of opinions: delete the outrageous talk of seminary, scrub the site of all hints, and lock out further comments (and no – they did not notify me). In other words he likes it when they leave – and if they won’t – he kicks them out.

    It must be nice to be master of one’s domain, and never hear any other opinions.

    Censorship – in one way or another – is their MO. Pattern anyone? I feel a bumper sticker in the works in the future (or maybe it’s just throw up coming up my throat).

  8. Sara Grumbles May 1, 2009 9:05 am

    I don’t think he wanted advice in the first place. I think he wanted reinforcement.

    The fact that he deleted Tommy’s comments and then closed the comments is very, very disturbing…

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