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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor without pointing fingers at anyone please consider your wife and child as you post and go on Inernet radio concerning this.  My heart does not go out to anyone but to your wife and child that are innocent bystanders in this.  I know that you consider yourself a victim but you should have known that attacking people in a blog in this environment we live in brings about a certain level of people that may or may not have compassion for your family.  Please if nothing else please quit blogging about other Pastors in the area.  You may enjoy it but maybe your wife did not sign on for the reprocussions that this has brought to her family.  I know I would not and I beg of you to please handle this if (you can not let it go) then go about it in a different way that will not effect your family.  Your wife and child are innocent bystanders in this saga that is being fought in this negative blogging by a renegade of people that want to do the ultimate fighting with hateful words.  Maybe a blog should be set up to have women of Pastors blog about their feelings and how they give up their time so that their husbands can serve in their church, or wives that give up family time so their husband can sit every week to listen to sermons and pick it apart line by line.  I would say that would be a civil blog and would not bring about this type of behavior.  I will be praying for your wife and son and that you would step back and reevaluate how you are fighting this in the public eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor without pointing fingers at anyone please consider your wife and child as you post and go on Inernet radio concerning this.  My heart does not go out to anyone but to your wife and child that are innocent bystanders in this.  I know that you consider yourself a victim but you should have known that attacking people in a blog in this environment we live in brings about a certain level of people that may or may not have compassion for your family.  Please if nothing else please quit blogging about other Pastors in the area.  You may enjoy it but maybe your wife did not sign on for the reprocussions that this has brought to her family.  I know I would not and I beg of you to please handle this if (you can not let it go) then go about it in a different way that will not effect your family.  Your wife and child are innocent bystanders in this saga that is being fought in this negative blogging by a renegade of people that want to do the ultimate fighting with hateful words.  Maybe a blog should be set up to have women of Pastors blog about their feelings and how they give up their time so that their husbands can serve in their church, or wives that give up family time so their husband can sit every week to listen to sermons and pick it apart line by line.  I would say that would be a civil blog and would not bring about this type of behavior.  I will be praying for your wife and son and that you would step back and reevaluate how you are fighting this in the public eye.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeramy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeramy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Steve67

Thank you for pointing out the ambiguity of the &quot;criticism&quot; and &quot;publicly defacing&quot; comment.  I was referring to those presumptuous posts exemplified by the one from &quot;T&quot; on December 6.  And as far as Perry&#039;s criticism of others in the aforesaid manner, I have a few Scriptural things I would like to say to him about that.  However, Perry was not my intended audience with this post; I was addressing the assumptions and fallacies I found in this blog.  If you want me to clarify anything else from my post above, just leave another post addressed to me.  Thanks again.</description>
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<p>Thank you for pointing out the ambiguity of the &#8220;criticism&#8221; and &#8220;publicly defacing&#8221; comment.  I was referring to those presumptuous posts exemplified by the one from &#8220;T&#8221; on December 6.  And as far as Perry&#8217;s criticism of others in the aforesaid manner, I have a few Scriptural things I would like to say to him about that.  However, Perry was not my intended audience with this post; I was addressing the assumptions and fallacies I found in this blog.  If you want me to clarify anything else from my post above, just leave another post addressed to me.  Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I typed so fast that I spelled a few wrong. Lol. An other note to add: I assure you by leaving this all in Gods hands he will resolve this situation once and for all. Once he has resolved it leave it alone.

You are bold in your sharing and You will be honored but leave it where it is and talk no more of it. I trully feel the best thing right now is to leave all including the church alone. Stop your followings to their links and posts. It will only create more trouble and I assure you intervention on this problem will only be put on hold or you will not see his hands to work, it merely will blow up and continue to blow up before you. LEAVE it alone and where it is trusting it into Gods hands. I assure you will see results. Hang in there friend.



The above is not good advice, but Dr. Duncan knows that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I typed so fast that I spelled a few wrong. Lol. An other note to add: I assure you by leaving this all in Gods hands he will resolve this situation once and for all. Once he has resolved it leave it alone.</p>
<p>You are bold in your sharing and You will be honored but leave it where it is and talk no more of it. I trully feel the best thing right now is to leave all including the church alone. Stop your followings to their links and posts. It will only create more trouble and I assure you intervention on this problem will only be put on hold or you will not see his hands to work, it merely will blow up and continue to blow up before you. LEAVE it alone and where it is trusting it into Gods hands. I assure you will see results. Hang in there friend.</p>
<p>The above is not good advice, but Dr. Duncan knows that.</p>
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		<title>By: Reflection Of Christ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reflection Of Christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I typed so fast that I spelled a few wrong. Lol. An other note to add: I assure you by leaving this all in Gods hands he will resolve this situation once and for all. Once he has resolved it leave it alone. 

You are bold in your sharing and You will be honored but leave it where it is and talk no more of it. I trully feel the best thing right now is to leave all including the church alone. Stop your followings to their links and posts. It will only create more trouble and I assure you intervention on this problem will only be put on hold or you will not see his hands to work, it merely will blow up and continue to blow up before you. LEAVE it alone and where it is trusting it into Gods hands. I assure you will see results. Hang in there friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I typed so fast that I spelled a few wrong. Lol. An other note to add: I assure you by leaving this all in Gods hands he will resolve this situation once and for all. Once he has resolved it leave it alone. </p>
<p>You are bold in your sharing and You will be honored but leave it where it is and talk no more of it. I trully feel the best thing right now is to leave all including the church alone. Stop your followings to their links and posts. It will only create more trouble and I assure you intervention on this problem will only be put on hold or you will not see his hands to work, it merely will blow up and continue to blow up before you. LEAVE it alone and where it is trusting it into Gods hands. I assure you will see results. Hang in there friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Reflection Of Christ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reflection Of Christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am deeply disturbed at the reaction of this church as well as this on going dispute between you and the church.  There is absolutely no reason for any of this to of happen. It is not our right to be judgemental or criticize any. It is our duty to share, show and spread the Love of Christ. The bible is plain black and white ink. There is no reading in to Gods word or interpreting his word one way or an other, other then the way it is written out. I have seen many churchs and pastors take the word out of context, Heck I have even sat in the midst of it. It is our job as believers to be in Gods word daily. If we are not in our word daily reading and learning it our self, but taking the word in as it is given from others rather then knowing it ourself, this is what causes destruction and terrible problems such as what you are dealing with right now. Thus opening the doors for cultified churchs. I am not stating this church is just that. However, there obviously is poor leadership happening when allowing such problems to be resolved at such jurastic measures. There is much prayer needed for this situation and those involved. 

By the looks of the comments above you have received some positive and encouraging replies as well as some childish remarks. It is good to share our experiences but leave it at that. By dragging it out it can cause misleading and useless remarks continuing on a spiteful dispute that is not necessary and I assure you not what Christ would want. Be loving and forgiving and move on. That does not mean you should stay around the same people or the ones involved. There seriously needs to be some prayer over this situation. I am praying that conviction will break those spewing the lies and the hate. I am also praying the Conviction will also turn hearts around to the truth, Gods Truth. May God certainly be called in to this matter and handle it by his own mercy and justice. I am praying that all bitterness and foul false talk be silenced and sease to no exhist no longer. May those involved be broken by Gods spirit and may they allow Gods love to manifest with in them and through them. Rest in the peace of God and leave this in his hands, no longer spreading any talk about this situation. The more you bur on it the more things will stir up and get worse. It is best to lay it in the hands of God and leave it there for his hands to work with. I speak from wisdom and experience friend, let this all be rested in Gods Hands. 

Bless you my friend and may the peace of God surround you and rest within.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am deeply disturbed at the reaction of this church as well as this on going dispute between you and the church.  There is absolutely no reason for any of this to of happen. It is not our right to be judgemental or criticize any. It is our duty to share, show and spread the Love of Christ. The bible is plain black and white ink. There is no reading in to Gods word or interpreting his word one way or an other, other then the way it is written out. I have seen many churchs and pastors take the word out of context, Heck I have even sat in the midst of it. It is our job as believers to be in Gods word daily. If we are not in our word daily reading and learning it our self, but taking the word in as it is given from others rather then knowing it ourself, this is what causes destruction and terrible problems such as what you are dealing with right now. Thus opening the doors for cultified churchs. I am not stating this church is just that. However, there obviously is poor leadership happening when allowing such problems to be resolved at such jurastic measures. There is much prayer needed for this situation and those involved. </p>
<p>By the looks of the comments above you have received some positive and encouraging replies as well as some childish remarks. It is good to share our experiences but leave it at that. By dragging it out it can cause misleading and useless remarks continuing on a spiteful dispute that is not necessary and I assure you not what Christ would want. Be loving and forgiving and move on. That does not mean you should stay around the same people or the ones involved. There seriously needs to be some prayer over this situation. I am praying that conviction will break those spewing the lies and the hate. I am also praying the Conviction will also turn hearts around to the truth, Gods Truth. May God certainly be called in to this matter and handle it by his own mercy and justice. I am praying that all bitterness and foul false talk be silenced and sease to no exhist no longer. May those involved be broken by Gods spirit and may they allow Gods love to manifest with in them and through them. Rest in the peace of God and leave this in his hands, no longer spreading any talk about this situation. The more you bur on it the more things will stir up and get worse. It is best to lay it in the hands of God and leave it there for his hands to work with. I speak from wisdom and experience friend, let this all be rested in Gods Hands. </p>
<p>Bless you my friend and may the peace of God surround you and rest within.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a short post on Why Bereans get bullied, on my blog.  Hope it helps. http://rotlc.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a short post on Why Bereans get bullied, on my blog.  Hope it helps. <a href="http://rotlc.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://rotlc.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brendt Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendt Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eph 6:12 -- For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eph 6:12 &#8212; For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.</p>
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		<title>By: Holiday At The Sea &#187; The Weekly Town Crier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holiday At The Sea &#187; The Weekly Town Crier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read about the man suing NewSpring Church. Read Newspring&#8217;s response. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Read about the man suing NewSpring Church. Read Newspring&#8217;s response. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sorry for what you and your family have gone through. I found you blog while researching New Spring. My niece and her husband joined last year after never attending any church for years. It never sounded like anything I would ever want to be involved in. Brainwashing comes to mind. It is truly scary the power that these people have. Keep up the fight and don&#039;t let them win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so sorry for what you and your family have gone through. I found you blog while researching New Spring. My niece and her husband joined last year after never attending any church for years. It never sounded like anything I would ever want to be involved in. Brainwashing comes to mind. It is truly scary the power that these people have. Keep up the fight and don&#8217;t let them win.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a terrible thing to go through.  I can&#039;t believe that the second comment down blames you for the illegal actions of the others.  I hope you keep up the work that the Lord has given you.  Persecution is alive and well in the western world...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a terrible thing to go through.  I can&#8217;t believe that the second comment down blames you for the illegal actions of the others.  I hope you keep up the work that the Lord has given you.  Persecution is alive and well in the western world&#8230;</p>
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