It’s just as well that Paul never flew coach 13

If you track Perry Noble’s tweet feed in the sidebar, you already know that whenever he travels we get treated to almost constant belly aching about how poorly he’s treated by the airlines and his fellow travelers. His trip to California last week was no exception. Some excerpts:

The pilot just informed us that the plane ride may get a little rough…DUH…I think we may actually be upside down!!!

They just informed us that they had to get a smaller plane and are asking for volunteers to give up their seat…I’m not doing that!

Not that we’d expect him to be so generous, minister of the gospel and all that. Do you suppose that if he’d been bumped to another flight he’d have had much compassion for all the losers who’d refused to give up their seats for him?

Ahhh…the smell of jet fuel…about to projectile vomit!

It’s all the airline’s fault, of course.

If you have stock in Delta airlines…SELL…SELL…SELL!!! 🙂

But the self-centered savagery of his personal assistant and traveling companion takes the cake:

Delta – if I could make something dead with my mind – it would be you!!!

If I were Delta, I’d make a deal with NewSpring church to pay them NOT to fly on my airline, considering how often the company is loudly and publicly excoriated (Noble has 13,000 Twitter followers).

Or perhaps I’d insist that Noble and friends read Acts 27 before boarding the planes that take them across a continent in just a few hours while eating, drinking, playing video games and tweeting in air conditioned comfort.

Paul was only shipwrecked, starved, snake bitten and marooned. What did he know about troublesome traveling?

He obviously never flew Perry Noble’s Delta, or else he could not have written Philippians 4:11-13.

I have learned to be content in whatever circumstances I am.

I know how to get along with humble means, and I also know how to live in prosperity; in any and every circumstance I have learned the secret of being filled and going hungry, both of having abundance and suffering need.

I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.

13 thoughts on “It’s just as well that Paul never flew coach

  1. Jason Sep 27, 2009 7:24 pm

    Posts like this take away any credibility that this blog has. Alot of time you make great posts pointing out some shaky teaching, but every few posts you just come across very petty, almost seeming like a stalker of PN and SF twitter accounts. I would encourage you to let these go.

  2. James Duncan Sep 27, 2009 9:13 pm

    Jason, this post bothers you more than their conduct?

    These tweets do real damage to a fine company. Perry has 13,000-odd followers, all of whom have been told by their pastor not to fly Delta. You might think that number would make him weigh his words more carefully.

    These kind of posts are not inconsistent with others that deal with their sermons and teachings. It’s quite revealing that when you see what these folk are like when the show is over, it’s often self-centered, intolerant, and just plain crass. Out of the heart the mouth speaks.

    If I were NS’s PR consultant (not that there’s much chance that will happen), I’d shut down the Twitter accounts of all of their staff, starting with the pastor’s. “Excellence” on Sunday is pretty worthless when it’s followed by this kind of junk for the rest of the week.

  3. Tommy F Sep 27, 2009 9:55 pm


    I’m a bit surprised that your conclusion from this post by JDuncan is: “Posts like this take away any credibility that this blog has.”

    Odd isn’t it? You attack the messenger, rather than the source.

    I think a more thoughtful response to this post by JDuncan might be: “Posts like this take away any credibility that PNoble has.”

  4. Jason Sep 27, 2009 10:16 pm

    I just find alot of similarities between your defense of peddy posts and there defense of their actions. Whenever someone questions your motives about posting a tweet from Perry’s airplane ride, your defense is “His actions were worse than my post”

    When they twist scriptures, preach false doctrines, or misquote stats then go ahead and defend the gospel. When someone uses a social networking tool to make sarcastic jokes (which alot of it is) than take a breath and go spend a few more hours watching Newspring clips on youtube.

    I will continue to say that posts like this make it look like you have a personal vendetta against them.

  5. Jason Sep 27, 2009 10:19 pm

    Tommy…hasn’t he already made the point that his opinion is that Perry Noble has no credibility. He has a blog with 4 out of every 5 posts making that point. Do we really need to post Perry Nobles thoughts on Delta.

    A sincere question, Why don’t you not follow his twitter?

  6. Tommy F Sep 27, 2009 10:26 pm


    “Petty” tweets = defensible (everyone does it)

    Blog posts about “petty” tweets = bad form

    The post can only be as inappropriate as PNoble’s twitter account. It simply shines a light on the public comments of pastors. Or in this case reflects the light of PNoble’s account. Again, in my humble opinion you are guilty of misdirected frustration: you are complaining about JDuncan’s comments, when you should complain about PNoble’s comments.

    How can this blog’s credibility be put in question by illuminating adolescent comments by a full-grown adult pastor? Shouldn’t it be exactly reverse?

  7. Tommy F Sep 27, 2009 10:31 pm


    You asked: “Why don’t you not follow his twitter?” I assume you’re asking JDuncan, since I don’t follow PNoble’s twitter.

    But I’ll take a stab anyway, and JDuncan can clean up my mess (if I make one): he follows PNoble’s twitter feed for credibility. Just in case you think JDuncan is too harsh on PNoble, just read the Feed, and you’ll see that PNoble offers up quite the justification for the purpose of Pajama Pages.

    In other words, the Feed itself stands in judgment of PNoble. In case a reader needed anymore evidence as to the appropriateness of PNoble, the Feed is pretty good proof.

  8. James Duncan Sep 27, 2009 10:35 pm

    Tommy pretty much nailed it on the Noble tweets. They stand as their own argument.

  9. James Duncan Sep 27, 2009 10:50 pm


    To be honest, this stuff makes me angrier than much the mindless sermon or blog stuff. His congregation obviously expects and appreciates what they get from the pulpit at the church, so it’s not usually directly demeaning to the people he’s speaking to (women and fat kids excepted).

    It bothers me because a well-known Christian leader is heading out into the world and “sponging” all over it (see Driscoll for the sponge reference). A gentleman would not act the way Noble does when he’s out in public. It it too much to expect that a pastor would treat strangers, especially the ones who are serving him, with a bit more respect? How about being willing to give up his seat on a crowded flight?

    Noble worries about what we non-NS believers do to the reputation of Christians and to the public image of Christ. That concern can run both ways.

    To be clear, it’s not just the written tweets that are the issue, it’s the attitudes he’s proudly reporting. Given his reports, would you have liked to be the person checking him and his entourage in at the airport? Would you have enjoyed sitting beside him, or serving him his Coke and crackers?

  10. David J Horn Sep 28, 2009 9:06 am

    In Perry’s tweets it just shows us his heart…

  11. JT Sep 28, 2009 4:25 pm

    He who has never complained about air travel, cast the first stone.

  12. JT Sep 28, 2009 9:33 pm


    Unless Delta was, in fact, Paul’s mysterious “thorn in the side”.

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