Lamb announces his divorce from Noble 13

Gary Lamb unloaded on his former friends in a remarkable post on Saturday where he tells what he has learned in the “real world” the last few months. Some excepts:

I had some of the fakest friendships in the world. People I thought were my best friends I haven’t spoken to once since I had an affair.

One of his former best friends, Perry Noble, didn’t appreciate the attention, and fired back with a pointed tweet.

Hate to see people play the victim when the people they blew apart with their choices are actually the real victims!!!

Noble’s relationship with Lamb must have, in Furtick’s words, outgrown its season.

Criticism makes me better. I had shielded myself from criticism to the point that I couldn’t see my flaws.

Lamb is warning against the kind of insulation married with vengeance directed at dissent practiced by his pals.

Men are pigs. I was the king of sexual jokes, second looks, and inappropriate thoughts (yes as a pastor and you’d probably be shocked at some of your current pastors in this area) but this is one of the areas I have been getting the most help to overcome. As I overcome it, I am left speechless at how little respect men have for women.

We saw this back in June, though you’d imagine this kind of talk might make a few of his former associates a little nervous. Noble seemed annoyed in this twitter response.

Being “real” means loving your wife like Christ loved the church…being FAITHFUL to her no matter what!

Lamb also talked about what happened at his former church.

Revolution Failed. That is not a knock on Revolution, the people or the staff, it is a knock on me. Big freaking deal that we ran the numbers we ran. The fact is the people in Canton aren’t going to church, want nothing to do with the things of God, and are searching for answers. They could care less how cool the show was every week.

No scoreboard argument here. Lamb also sees now that his church really was all about him. When he failed, his church failed. This is an encouraging insight.

People HATE the church. Wow! Again, I knew the church was a sore subject for people but I had no idea how deep the feelings ran. People hate churches and to be honest, I can’t blame them.

This is discouraging, though, and suggests that Lamb needs to wait much longer before making his planned move back into ministry. The people he meets quite likely do hate the church–something that Lamb himself might bear some responsibility for–, though Jesus does love his church. If we love Jesus, we’ll love his church. Although Lamb has learned a great deal about the failure of his own ministry (beyond his moral failings), one senses that his next church will be even more anti-Christian than his first one.

I worked less than the people I pastored. Ministry was my job yet I asked our people to serve, volunteer, etc. AFTER they have worked 50-60 hour work weeks.

Noble and Furtick typically reject quiet discipleship and learning for activity. Church members need to be proving their devotion to the church by doing stuff for the church. Beyond the question of whether that is really discipleship, Lamb’s pastor friends might evaluate his insight into the long-term sustainability of the you’re-in-the-army-now treatment that church members often experience.

13 thoughts on “Lamb announces his divorce from Noble

  1. Sophie Nov 2, 2009 10:31 am

    I hope and pray that everything he wrote is blog is true, and that he really will change things around. I really think he needs to wait a while longer before trying to get back into ministry, maybe go to seminary (if he hasn’t already). The only thing I would suggest is not to wear the shirt…
    “I will have been there, done that, have the T-shirt to prove it.”

  2. Jim W Nov 2, 2009 11:27 am

    I don’t know. After reading several of his Twitters? Tweets?, I sure did not expect this from him. His Twits? come across as still very arrogant and more angry at being caught, than being sorry for his sin. Everything has been focused on getting back to pastoring a church as soon as possible-basically being the big man again. He sure hasn’t sounded like a repentant sinner-at least what I’ve seen, others may have followed him far more closely.

  3. Paul C Nov 2, 2009 12:12 pm

    This whole soap opera episode is disgraceful – putting out your dirty laundry, complaining and whining. It is a narcissism at its best.

    I sympathize with the fact that he fell and lost his family, but there is a right way and a wrong way to proceed after the house of cards collapses. Silence is the right way, humbling yourself before God and man, sitting quietly, keeping your head down and not feeling the need to be in Twitter, lashing out or blogging.

  4. Mike Nov 2, 2009 12:25 pm

    at the risk of being “judgemental” it looks from here thast he is handling this episode quite similarly to the way he handled his pastorship.
    selfindulgently, self servingly, and without great concern for others.

    almost could be applied to several others in that area?

  5. Jim W Nov 2, 2009 12:35 pm

    Yeah, what Mike and Paul C said.

  6. Anthony Nov 2, 2009 1:43 pm

    Sophie — Seminary wont help him for two reasons in my opinion: One being is heart doesnt seem to be on God. Now I know it is for the most part wrong of me to say this but I am stricyly going off his tweets. I read his blog on saturday and immediately after seen Perry’s tweet and I was like, “Oh Snap!” The other reason is that seminary is not necessary for a pastor. Thats my opinion, I know others will disagree. I dont hate seminary, I just dont think its necessary.

    Jim W — Great points, I agree with completely! I cannot for the life of me understand why he is wanting to start another church! How does he have the audacity to say that Revolution failed? It was NEVER about him but about another single person and that is JESUS!

    Duncan — I was hoping you would post this because I think it needs to be seen. It’s sad but I would never ever place Gary in the same sentence as Perry or Steven, NEVER!!

  7. Paul Nov 2, 2009 2:04 pm

    every time he opens his mouth, blog, etc., he just shows the church all the more that he is not qualified nor ever qualified to begin with to pastor any church for any reason for a very long time if not ever again. TO contrast Lamb’s so called repentance, I recommend reading Bunyan’s “grace abounding to sinners” or thomas watson’s “doctrine of repentance.” We all need to understand what baring fruit in keeping with true repentance looks like.

  8. Anthony Nov 2, 2009 2:38 pm

    Granted he is in a difficult position but he put himself in that position because of his sin. I dont think any of us think about how we would react to a situation like this but I know that I would probably do everything the opposite of what Gary has done.

  9. Corner Coffee Nov 3, 2009 1:21 am

    I’m glad you posted this. Lamb’s blog post really made me think. His “club member”, insider perspective adds something to the conversation that was previously missing, and I think that’s pretty valuable.

    Some of you might think he’s dumb to be public right now, but in the moments that God was teaching him, I think it’s good that he’s allowing those lessons to be public.

  10. Josh Nov 3, 2009 3:14 am

    Are you sure you’re not reading too much into Lamb’s post re Noble? It sounded to me like he was referring to friends in his church that ditched him after his affair.

    • James Duncan Nov 3, 2009 8:13 am

      Josh, in this case I take my lead from Noble. Noble bit pretty hard on this, so he, at least, thought Lamb was taking a shot at him.

  11. Josh Nov 3, 2009 11:19 am

    I think you’re right. Noble had two tweets in a row that seemed pretty directed toward Gary Lamb. So at least PN thought it was aimed in his direction. I will say that I’m kind of impressed that PN didn’t make excuses for Gary Lamb.

  12. JT Nov 6, 2009 2:43 am

    It sure does look like Noble’s tweets are in response to Lamb’s blog post.

    But then I noticed this:

    Gary Lamb posted on October 31, 2009 at 8:27 AM.
    Noble’s tweets are from 7:42 AM and 8:26 AM.

    Some sort of DST mix-up, perhaps?

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