Liberty University fines students for not listening to cult leader 82

Liberty University invited Mormon Glenn Beck to preach to its students at its compulsory convocation last week, handing out $10 fines to residential students who didn’t have a suitable excuse for not attending.

The Beck sermon continues a worrying trend that signals Liberty’s rapid retreat from Christian orthodoxy to an unapologetic embrace of false religions and heretics, starting with self-proclaimed messiah Rev. Moon in the 1990s, to Benny Hinn and the Mormon church today. Though it still markets itself as a Christian university, its definition as to what passes as Christian is not one shared by most of the churches that send their young people there for an education.

We’ve covered Liberty’s affiliation with the Moonie cult and Benny Hinn on this blog before, and Beck’s heretical sermon last week suggests that the toleration of false teachers like Moon and Hinn weren’t aberrations. Foisting heresy on students is becoming Liberty’s signature.

Liberty hosts convocation events throughout the year to which students are compelled to attend. Although it’s not part of the chapel program, most speakers are Christians, and most use the event to preach. Clayton King and Steven Furtick are regular convocation speakers.

Jerry Falwell and Ron Godwin (behind the white-haired man) listen to Glenn Beck preach to a captive audience of students.

Jerry Falwell and Ron Godwin (behind the white-haired man) listen to Glenn Beck preach to a captive audience of students.

Because convocation is not technically reserved for Christian speakers, it occasionally hosts cultural and political leaders. For example, this semester it invited Michael Reagan (son of Ronald), and Mark Burnett and Roma Downey, the producers of the “Son of God” television series. The alarming feature of last week’s message is that Beck did not appear as a political or cultural leader; instead, he used his time to preach a message full of theological assertions that were unchallenged by the university, and which received a standing ovation from Jerry Falwell at the end of the event. Liberty’s website boasted of the event’s success, again without providing any disclaimer from or correction to Beck’s deceptive and antichristian teaching. In fact, the Liberty account of the sermon simply repeats Beck’s deceptions, apparently unaware and unconcerned that Liberty is being used as a tool to promote a false religion.

At the beginning of the convocation meeting, Jerry Falwell introduced Beck in glowing terms, welcoming him as a friend of the university and reminding students that he had also been a commencement speaker. No mention of his Mormon faith was made, so he appeared to be joining Falwell on stage as a Christian brother. During his sermon, Beck did acknowledge his Mormon identity, though asserted that he was a Christian just like Falwell and everybody else, except he was from a different denomination.

I share your faith. I am from a different denomination, and a denomination, quite honestly, that I’m sure can make many people at Liberty uncomfortable. I’m a Mormon, but I share your faith in the atonement of the savior, Jesus Christ. In my faith, we have a guy who gave his life for what he believed in. You don’t have to believe it; I’m not asking you to. I’m asking you, “What is it that you believe? Are you willing to give your life?”

Not only does Beck attach his false religion to Christianity, he holds a false prophet up as an example for Liberty students to emulate.

Glenn Beck shows off Joseph Smith's pocket watch

Glenn Beck shows off Joseph Smith’s pocket watch

As a Mormon, Beck is not some casual adherent; the church and the need to spread its message consumes his life. He opened with a tearful confession that he doesn’t spend every possible moment studying his church’s teachings. Among other historical artifacts on display during the presentation, he displayed the pocket watch that Joseph Smith surrendered immediately before his death. One would imagine such an artifact would be rare and highly valued among his co-religionists, and you’d expect to see it in a museum, not a preacher’s pocket. Beck often alluded to his own prophetic calling by God, considering it an honor to be in God’s service as a leader in his church. To be able to take his Mormon theology and preach to what he identified as “the biggest collection of Christian youth meeting in America today” is a privilege that Beck surely takes seriously. (The self-conscious references to being a national religious leader echoed Rev. Moon’s charge to Liberty’s current provost, Ron Godwin, to take the Moonie cultist message to the evangelical world.) 

Beck’s sermon and Liberty’s unwitting acceptance of it constitute an excellent case study in how false teachers infiltrate the church. False teachers never appear wearing horns and announcing that they are dangerous wolves. Instead, they look and sound like they’re preaching God’s truth, injecting their deceptions at the edges when nobody is looking, or manipulating language to lull the audience into agreeing to statements that carry secondary, false meanings. Beck was a master at it, and Liberty appears to have no idea what hit them. Here’s how Beck got to teach his false religion to thousands of students at America’s largest Christian university.

Scripture

At first blush, Beck appears to be a devotee of Scripture, and he even quoted passages from the Old and New Testaments. The giveaway was his refusal to refer to Scripture as a singular noun, always referring to Scriptures. You can hear it throughout the sermon, but let’s just look at two quotes that Liberty itself thought excellent enough to repeat in its press release (again, without any hint that they know what Beck is doing):

“The times are changing, and if we are going to rebuild our nation and keep people free, then we have to look at the source,” Beck said, holding up a Bible. “You have to know what the blueprint is. And the blueprint for freedom … is the Scriptures.”

“Man is free because of the Scriptures.”

The reason that Beck uses the plural form is that the 66 books of the Christian Bible are only one part of four sacred texts that comprise Mormonism’s “Scriptures.” One of those books, the Book of Mormon, was discovered and interpreted by Joseph Smith and tells the story of Jesus’ ministry to North America. Even though Beck believes the Book of Mormon is just as sacred as the Bible, he was smart enough not to use any references from it in his sermon, making it appear that his references to “Scriptures” were to the Christian Bible.

Atonement

Beck often referred to the atoning power of Jesus, which had helped change his life into what it is today. For example, early in the sermon he said,

Are you taking your life, are you taking your scriptures as seriously as you should? I will tell you that I was a man that was lost and hopeless. I’m a recovering alcoholic. I couldn’t hold my sobriety until the atoning power of Jesus Christ. [applause]

The idea of atonement comes up elsewhere in the sermon, but never the cross. For Beck and other Mormons, Jesus performed his atoning work primarily in the garden of Gethsemane when he sweat blood. In other words, the cross and the death and resurrection of Jesus weren’t necessary for his atoning work, though Mormons will include the cross as part of the atoning process that began in the garden. It wasn’t Jesus death that makes us right with God, it was his work of suffering, which, though it did happen while he was still alive on the cross, mainly happened in the garden.

Atonement is an important theological term, though Beck gets away with using it in front of a Christian audience who probably have no idea that he actually denies the Christian atonement taught in evangelical churches for millennia. As Indigo Montoya pointed out in The Princess Bride, “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

Purpose

Beck asks Liberty’s students to find their God-given purpose because God “brought us all here for a reason.” He wanted students to see that they had a higher purpose, and that Liberty could help them reach it.

You didn’t come down for a job…. You need an education from Liberty University because of your only true job, the purpose you were sent here for: to magnify Him. To bring Him to others. To do what it is that you’re supposed to do. To preserve liberty, the liberty of all mankind.

Note the language of transportation – brought us, come down – rather than the language of creation. This, too, is consistent with Mormon theology that we, with God, are eternal beings who lived with God before he sent us to earth. Because our time here, according to Mormon teaching, is a test, we don’t remember our previous life with God. We pass God’s test if we figure out the reason we were sent here in the first place.

Works

What we do while on earth is of utmost importance to the Mormon god. Beck tells Liberty’s students that they need to figure out their reason for being here. He also appropriates the language of Joshua to ask the audience to “choose who you will be,” not whom you will serve. This is not a slip of the tongue. Our identity and works determine whether we pass the test of life’s struggle, and our performance determines what level of heaven we go back to.

In a sermon to other Mormons, the head president of the church explained how works matter.

I have been thinking recently about choices and their consequences. It has been said that the gate of history turns on small hinges, and so do people’s lives. The choices we make determine our destiny….

We all know where we want to go, and it does matter which way we go, for the path we follow in this life surely leads to the path we will follow in the next.

The Mormon articles of faith also make it clear that it is works that save us, not Christ alone.

We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. [emphasis added]

This Mormon explanation of their beliefs shows the relationship between Jesus’ atoning work on the cross (not death and resurrection) and our obligation to obey and strive for good works:

We know that in the Garden of Gethsemane, the weight of our sins caused Him to feel such agony that He bled from every pore (Doctrine and Covenants 19:16-17).

Later, as He hung upon the cross, Jesus again felt the weight of our sins even as He willingly suffered painful death by one of the most cruel methods ever known. Jesus the Christ, page 462 states, “It seems, that in addition to the fearful suffering incident to crucifixion, the agony of Gethsemane had recurred, intensified beyond human power to endure. In that bitterest hour the dying Christ was alone, alone in most terrible reality.”…

Jesus Christ did what only He could do in atoning for our sins. To make His Atonement fully effective in our individual lives, we must have faith in Christ, repent of our sins, be baptized and confirmed by one having authority, receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, obey God’s commandments, receive sacred ordinances, and strive to become like Him. As we do these things through His Atonement, we can return to live with Him and our Heavenly Father forever. [emphasis added]

Joseph Smith taught that we “are justified of faith and works, through grace.” This is not the gospel, so it’s not Christian. Paul clearly condemned such teaching as false and antichristian.

If someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough….

And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. (2 Cor 11:4, 12-15)

“Put up with it readily enough” could describe Liberty, except that they not only put up with it, they invited and promoted it.

Appropriating Jesus’ Name

Although Beck repeatedly refers to Jesus, he does not believe in the Christian Jesus, and, therefore, the Christian God. Mormons reject the Trinity and the eternal existence of Christ. They also reject monotheism, believing that we can all become gods.

Appallingly then, Beck misappropriates the language of orthodox Christian belief (mixed with a touch of Benny Hinn) to inspire students to ask God for miracles:

What is it that you truly believe? …Too many of us are worshipping the god of the Constitution. Not the Constitution, but God. God is our God. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The God peace, of comfort, of miracles. Expect miracles in your lifetime. Live in such a way that you can demand miracles. Expect miracles. Call down miracles. And then when they happen, pronounce them. Declare them. Never be shy, no matter how small or how big, don’t explain it away. That is the awesome power of Jesus Christ and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. [applause]

He finished the sermon by saying, “I leave you this message in the name of Jesus Christ.”

Glenn Beck was invited to a Christian university and was able to preach to thousands of its students as if he were a brother in Christ, when in fact he is a wolf and a false teacher. If Liberty’s administrators knew it, they did not warn their students of Beck’s apostasy, and in so doing flatly ignored Paul’s instructions on how to treat such teachers.

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel — not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:6-8)

If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness,… flee these things. (1 Tim 6:3, 11)

Liberty’s appalling lack of discernment, especially when it promises parents that it will train their children in the Christian faith, would be surprising if we didn’t know its history and tolerance for false teachers like Moon and Hinn. You’d think Beck’s error would be obvious and that his name would be quickly stricken from Liberty’s convocation invitation lists. Why it wasn’t was perhaps revealed by Beck himself on his radio show:

When I die, if I have anything left I will be leaving a large sum of money to Liberty University because these guys are truly remarkable.

Well, OK then. For a growing university, the promise of a large donation covers a multitude of sins.

82 thoughts on “Liberty University fines students for not listening to cult leader

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  1. Jordan Apr 29, 2014 11:57 pm

    As a former student of the above mentioned post, I am continually appalled at the direction of the school but do not find it surprising after getting to know the administrative leadership of the school. It saddens me. Thank you for this well informed and well written post. My only question would be whether there is anyway to help turn the tide against the cultist leaning administration that soon plans to invite the likes of T.D. Jakes and others to their convocation and beyond. I can confess that a large part of the student body is orthodox and does care – but few are willing or caring enough to speak out. Blessings to you.

  2. SallyVee Apr 30, 2014 12:51 am

    Another blockbuster post, James. Beck has also spoken/preached at other allegedly Christian enclaves. I wonder though if you give too much credit to the churches which are feeding their kids to these wolves… so many American EVs are breathtakingly clueless and immature. I say this with sadness but it is what I’ve personally observed living in the South. I hasten to add, EVs are not alone in their theological ignorance. But they do seem to me uniquely predisposed to fall for a certain type of charlatan who mixes rah rah patriotism and politicking with shallow, purpose driven theology.

    And then of course there’s the money ; )

  3. JT Apr 30, 2014 6:43 am

    This was a huge mistake by the Liberty administration. They should have made it clear to Beck that he was to stick to political and cultural themes.

    And why don’t your Liberty University posts contain a disclosure that you are a professor at a Christian university in the same geographic region as Liberty? One would think a professor of communication would not need reminding of such things.

  4. Junius Apr 30, 2014 7:40 am

    JT

    What does Dr. Duncan’s professorship at AU have anything to do with criticizing LU?

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  6. Man from Modesto Apr 30, 2014 1:59 pm

    Mormons are NOT a type of Christianity. Christians derive their name from Jesus the Christ. To be Christian, one must believe in the Jesus who is the Christ. This Redeemer, the Promised One, was the “only begotten son” when he died on the cross. At that time, the Jesus who is God Almighty’s salvation plan to redeem us, did not have any brothers.

    He was the “ONLY” begotten son.

    Mormons believe in a Jesus who is brother to Satan.

    The brother of Satan did not die on the cross to redeem us and cleanse our sins.

  7. Janet Apr 30, 2014 2:15 pm

    Seriously disturbed by the title of your article. It’s misleading to say that Liberty fines students for not attending the Glenn Beck convocation when Liberty students are fined if they miss ANY convocation, not just those that have a “cult leader” speaking. Just saying.

    • James Duncan Apr 30, 2014 2:26 pm

      That is correct, Janet, but that makes Liberty’s decision to have him speak that much more egregious. Liberty knew that students would have to attend, so shouldn’t they have an obligation to respect students’ time and beliefs by not subjecting them to the likes of Beck? It would be one thing if he came to talk about politics or media, but he didn’t. He preached. Without correction.

      And Liberty fined students who didn’t want to hear it.

      • Kim Gamble May 2, 2014 2:05 pm

        This big hullaballoo over the students being charged $10 if they did not come to the speech is silly. It was $10. If someone cannot spend $10 in support (or defiance of) something they stand firmly about then they do not have much of a foundation in their faith, do they?

  8. Pastor C Apr 30, 2014 2:44 pm

    This saddens me greatly and makes it that much harder to discern where to send my sons to college.
    I am a Pastor and part time employee at a very conservative Christian School (not college) in NC. They are having another Mormon on campus to speak and give a basketball clinic this weekend; Jabari Parker former duke player.
    In this case I think it was a result of not doing their homework as the Administrator I confronted was shocked to learn Jabari was Mormon.
    The infiltration is in full swing and the ploy of being seen as “just another denomination” is brilliant, devious, and working.

  9. Don Mitroff Apr 30, 2014 3:13 pm

    Glenn Becks Mormon beliefs should be enough for distancing Liberty from him …but a simple search on you tube will find an expose’ done by Pastor Mike Hoggard that shows Glenn Becks open new age teachings…. as discovered in his recent books….and detailed by Hoggard and Brannon Howse. The Falwell family has not Fallen Well…but they have fallen from Truth for a long time before and certainly with this convocation speaker.

  10. SallyVee Apr 30, 2014 3:54 pm

    Regarding the trend of EVs embracing Mormons. This is only my opinion, but here is part of what I think is going on:

    1. POLITICAL troubles. There is a sudden realization, due primarily to the rapid advance of the Homosexual agenda, that Christianity and basic family values are under severe attack in America. In response, people are looking for any helping hand on the political front – call it an “any port in a storm” mentality. Mormons have been staunch defenders of what most traditional Christian Americans would view as solid patriotic and family values, and certainly I welcome Mormon support on that front. But it’s a mistake to conflate common values with theological doctrine, or try to pretend vast theological differences do not exist.

    2. FINANCIAL troubles. I think Liberty is in financial trouble. I think lots of EV orgs are in financial trouble. I think lots of American churches of every stripe are in trouble. Let’s face it, America is swirling down the drain right before our eyes and orthodox Christianity is in steep decline. Well, Mormons are pretty savvy with money and generally very wealthy. They are often compared to Jews in terms of their particular talents and acumen for managing money and prospering economically. Goldman Sachs actively recruits Mormons for top positions. Well, I think EVs want those talents to rub off on them. I think some are so desperate to “save the ship” that they are willing to overlook a whole lot of doctrinal error in order to partner with and pursue projects which they think could reverse the current trends in America. I think they justify this under the rubric of “we have bigger fish to fry” at the moment besides nit-picking doctrine… and “this is all for the greater good,” yada yada. And I get this impulse, I really do. Believe me, when I look around at our culture I am beyond disgusted and frankly terrified by where things are headed. But watering down Christianity to make common cause with non-Christians is not a solution to our disintegrating culture – it is actually the main problem that got us here in the first place.

    Just some thoughts to mull over.

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  12. Dr. David Tee Apr 30, 2014 4:42 pm

    ” which received a standing ovation from Jerry Falwell ”
    “At the beginning of the convocation meeting, Jerry Falwell introduced ”

    That must have been some sight to see Jerry Falwell stand up in his coffin and applaud as well as remove himself from it so he could introduce someone.

    I believe the correct name is Jerry Falwell Jr. and yes these little mistakes make all the difference.

    The article begs the question when the Mormon Church asked Ravi Zacharias to speak at their temple, did that indicate a change in their ideology or did it mean that Dr. Zacharias accepted them as Christian?

    I do not like what liberty is doing but are they really sliding away from the truth or allowing the students to hear the difference between the truth and false teaching?

    • James Duncan Apr 30, 2014 5:45 pm

      Tee, I might have thought the photo and the video made it clear which Jerry we were talking about, but there was no error in not referring to him as Jr. Once the father dies, the son no longer needs the Jr. to differentiate him. As you can see from Liberty’s own site, he is Jerry Falwell, not Jerry Falwell Jr.

      Zacharias can answer for himself, but sending a mature Christian apologist to the Mormons is significantly different than inviting a Mormon evangelist to speak to an unprepared and unwarned captive audience of Christian young people.

      Judging by their repeated applause, it seems that many of the students couldn’t discern the difference between truth and false teaching, and I’m not sure the administration knows the difference, either.

  13. Bill Apr 30, 2014 4:44 pm

    Nothing this bunch does surprises me anymore. A recent photo of Falwell sr being hugged buy Moon himself says it all. Birds of a feather do flock together.The grin on Falwells face was disgusting.

  14. Lillie White Apr 30, 2014 7:10 pm

    That is tyranny!

    Those students don’t have to listen to anyone and no one can force them!
    It is a freedom of religion and following your conscience issue. To fine them any amount is persecuting them for what they believe and practice as Christians. If I went there (which, thankfully I don’t), I wouldn’t go to that event either, in fact I would be protesting so much I would get kicked out (so, why even go there?) and I wouldn’t pay the fine either, I would get a lawsuit for discrimination against them! Make them pay a fine for discriminating instead…

    People like me cannot be bullied into compromising with apostasy and heretics.

  15. Bill Apr 30, 2014 7:25 pm

    Yes, but this Beck guy is supposed to be a rabid right winger. This behavior buy a so-called Christian school only proves that the lunatic fringe of the right wing cannot see the forest for the trees. Actually I consider beck to be just another charlatan preying and profiting from peoples fears and stupidity.

  16. SlaveOfChrist Apr 30, 2014 8:15 pm

    “In my faith, we have a guy who gave his life for what he believed in.”

    What a bunch of crap. Hellbound sinners almost universally say something to this effect about the Lord Jesus. He was a martyr, or a social justice advocate, or a revolutionary, but they’ll never call him the Son of God.

  17. Hannah Apr 30, 2014 9:04 pm

    Next year I will be attending Liberty University. How worried should I be about this controversy? I am Christian Reformed and wanted to attend Liberty because it has my exact major (which is hard to find in a small Christian college) and because it was Christian. Also your last statement worried me. It said, “[Liberty is]…thriving amidst controversy and leading with conservative politics rather than theology.” Should I be worried about the politics overtaking good Christian perspectives? Is this school really more about politics than religion?

    • Hannah Apr 30, 2014 9:07 pm

      The article I am referring to was on a different site. I’m asking all around because I want more than one person’s opinion. The site is: http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews.com/2014/04/30/glenn-beck-shares-mormon-teachings-liberty-university/#sthash.k6hoLscY.d

      • Pierce Brown May 3, 2014 10:17 am

        Hey Hannah,

        As a Liberty alumnus, I can honestly say that even still after reading this article, there’s no Christian university I would recommend more. And before I’m criticized for being diluted in my faith or backsliden in some way, I’m now a pastor at an evangelical church and as conservative as they come.

        The thing that this article and other commenters seem to leave out is that every single class at Liberty is geared towards shaping an evangelical mind in whatever field you’re studying. The vast majority (probably 95%) of speakers invited to Liberty are right on with evangelical Christianity. Why not 100 percent? Because you need to be challenged in your faith if you’re ever going to hope to grow in it. If you want somewhere to be babied and milk-fed, then go somewhere else. But if you’re looking for somewhere to grounded in your belief and then challenged and galvanized in it, then Liberty’s your place.

  18. Solomon G. Gunapalan Apr 30, 2014 9:38 pm

    In my opinion Mormonism is deliberately spreading disinformation about
    Jesus Christ, the Son of God and about His Gospel truth though in a subtle
    and beguiling manner.
    Solomon G. Gunapalan

  19. WilliamSimpson Apr 30, 2014 10:54 pm

    I do appreciate the historical information Glenn Beck and his team provides for us to learn from. That said, Glenn Beck has no place speaking to students at a Christian University. And for the university to fine those that chose to not attend is wrong. Mormonism is not Christianity! Shame on you…

  20. Vic S. Apr 30, 2014 11:09 pm

    I am a 25 year old student at Liberty, majoring in Theology & Apologetics.

    While I see your points, I still do not understand why anyone would not want vast exposure to differing worldviews. I just love learning too much, and would never pass on the opportunity to hear a different perspective. I would go to a Satanic church if I had the chance, just to see and hear how they go about things.

    If those less mature in the faith cannot handle non Christians speaking on various matters, then I guess Liberty should refrain from bringing those speakers in. Unfortunately I truly appreciate getting to hear from people of differing worldviews. I think the lack of such exposure only serves to fuel ignorance. I would hope that more Christians can reach a point where they can listen to the atheist, the Mormon, the Muslim, etc., and appreciate the perspective and knowledge gained, while still remaining sincere, pure, and solid in their faith.

    The sheltered, uncultured, average education having Christian will find it difficult to intellectually stand against the ivy league atheist.

  21. Brianna May 1, 2014 12:35 am

    I’m not a huge fan of Glen Beck, but I am a mormon. Unfortunately, not all of the information given is this article is correct about Mormons. Please visit mormon.org to find correct information regarding our beliefs. God bless!

  22. Alex May 1, 2014 3:45 am

    Brianna, your comment is really common with the LDS. “Some of what you write is not accurate…” Do please enlighten us as to what it may be. The problem with LDS writing is that because there is so much scripture and writings by leading men in the church(Smith, Brigham, various apostles, presidents) I can find a different point of view for most controversial topics. Even Joseph Smith’s views changed regarding God when comparing the Book of Mormon to later writings as in the Book of Abraham.

  23. Jack Morrow May 1, 2014 5:38 am

    It would be more accurate to describe Glenn Beck as a well-known cult member, rather than as a cult leader.

    On at least one occasion, Liberty has flatly denied being a Christian university: http://suspiciousberean.blogspot.com/2009/05/libertine-university.html

  24. Edward A. Hara May 1, 2014 7:28 am

    Brianna —

    The admixture of just the slightest bit of cyanide to water turns the water to poison. The poison of your religion is the denial of the Trinity. Perhaps you should go back and read some of the writings of the Early Fathers of Christianity who wrestled with this issue. The Council of Nicea was held precisely over this issue — Is Jesus Christ God manifest (Incarnate) in the Flesh?

    Mormonism says no. Orthodox Christianity has always declared this. To this point, the Early Fathers of the Church declare that one who denies the Son as God cannot be Christian. It is no small matter. And it is no small matter precisely because if Christ is not God in the Flesh, then we are still in our sins and our nature, corrupted by sin, cannot be healed by another mere man.

  25. Justin Steckbauer May 1, 2014 9:02 am

    I think you put together a good piece of writing here, which definitely points out Glenn Beck is not the best guy to learn theology from. Fair enough. But I attend Liberty University for a degree in religion, and I’m telling you the truth, the actual classes are rock solid as far as doctrine goes. Liberty has chosen some poor visiting speakers in the past, but as far as teachers and staff, rock solid.

  26. Leslie May 1, 2014 10:55 am

    First of all Liberty fines for any convocation missed regardless of the speaker. Second He had a good message and did not bring in anything about his Mormon believe. Third many people, other than Mormons, say Scriptures. In case you didn’t know there is more than one Scripture in the Bible. There are 66 Books filled with them. Not to mention the Bible refers to them as Scriptures…Luke 24:27 1 Corinthians 15:3 referring to Christ’s resurrection….and fourth he didn’t get a standing ovation… We were late to class and all stood up to leave…get off your high horse and maybe stop believing stupid false Articles on an unreliable source from someone who wasn’t even there! I was there in convocation so I’m more of a reliable source than half of you commenting and this ridiculous article

  27. Evan May 1, 2014 11:37 am

    I just want to point out that they get fined for missing convocation regardless.

  28. Aaron Schultz May 1, 2014 11:59 am

    Twice in the last year I have thought about throwing my degrees from Liberty University away and removing them from my resume. This wickedness that continues based on a nonsense concept of unification based on political ideology is pure garbage.

    Either be a Christian University or be a Religious Pluralist University, but don’t attempt to be both. It just makes you look like a fraud.

    Shame on Liberty University. I am embarrassed to hold degrees from there.

  29. Amy May 1, 2014 12:02 pm

    As an ex mormon who was saved 3 years ago…I’m appalled that a Christian university would allow any LDS member speak to students. The mormon church is trying hard to convince Christians that they are “just another denomination”. They are not. Most of their warped doctrines contradict the bible. I was born into the church and was a member for over 30 years. Most of my family are still active members of the false church. With all the brain washing…It is a miracle that any mormon escapes the cult. Mormons need our prayers…NOT the opportunity to share their faith with true Christians!

  30. Ivan Komotious May 1, 2014 12:54 pm

    http://thetruthaboutmormonism-creeksalmon.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-sad-discernment-of-mormon-top-brass.html

    Glenn Beck speaking at a Christian University is like letting a Canaanite Baal worshipper speak to the Israelites . ISA 5:20 comes to mind

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