Or, as Jesus put it, “If salt has lost it’s flavor, how shall it’s saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.”

We don’t need to imitate the culture, we should seek to transform the culture. We don’t need to approach the world on its terms, we should seek to emulate the early church, “men who turned the world upside down.” (Acts 17:6)

“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.”
– 2 Tim 4:3-4

About Perry’s salary, my husband and I tithe regularly and we know what percentage goes toward salaries for the staff of NewSpring. Perry Noble could make a lot more than he does if he worked in the corporate world! He is a very influential man and a brilliant speaker. Perry works really hard for NewSpring and that is the reason the members of NewSpring don’t care about his salary.

In closing, like I mentioned earlier, I do not agree with everything that NewSpring does but amazing things are happening there and I feel fortunate to be a part of it. God is working in big ways in Anderson, SC!

I’m just trying to confuse all the PP haters.

I appreciate your insights and advice.

Many thanks!

Good luck in your quest, but I don’t think you’ll get far. While there is a requirement that nonprofits make their CEO salaries public, churches are exempted from this. There is no legal requirement that they do this, so I wouldn’t characterize them as being dishonest about it.

This is not a Jim Baker analog. Baker raised money for things that he never built. Noble is being paid for pastoring a church. No one is being misled into giving money. Given that the Bible endorses the idea of pastors being paid well, I don’t think there’s a Scriptural reason to object to his salary (you can object to the church structure that set the salary, but not to the fact that he is paid).

I’m considering gathering the info they released to me and starting a awareness group using the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press to try to get the actual numbers. I just smell a rat kind of like the Benny Hinn style rats. I hope I’m wrong but my gut feeling is that Perry Noble’s salary is very high and they know it will cause a problem. I’m not a big government supporter but I feel that people who give money to a non-profit group like a church have every right to see salaries. By this is helps avoid the Jim Baker’s of the world. As it stands right now NewSpring refuses to give me the info because they are non-public. I’m going to contact some SC law makers and see what can be done to make these non-profit groups transparent since they are getting donations which are tax credits.

Perry Noble’s salary amount is my my main issue. I hope that I mad that clear for all who read my post here.

PS- Thanks for exposing some of Perry Noble’s problems. I was sucked into NewSpring by the kids ministry. I left NewSpring because of Pery’s ungodly mouth and attitude.

Thing is, he deserves it. How many pastors can grow a 15,000 church from a small college gathering within ten years? Now, I don’t endorse much of what he does, but 15,000 other people do (including quite a few folk I like very much) and they contribute money to his paycheck each week. Good for them, and even better for him.

You can ask, but NewSpring doesn’t have to, and won’t, tell you his salary. Yes, other churches do make that public, but NS is very much not like those kinds of churches. The people who attend that church know who their money is going to, and most also seem content with not knowing exactly how much flows to the chief.

One last thing: Given that churches are a human-intensive enterprise, 44% on salaries doesn’t seem excessive to me, though I’m not sure what that would look like in other churches. I suspect that it may well be much higher.