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	<title>Comments on: Noble ties himself to the mast</title>
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		<title>By: Em</title>
		<link>http://www.pajamapages.com/noble-ties-himself-to-the-mast/comment-page-1/#comment-6938</link>
		<dc:creator>Em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone just needs to cool their jets. No one is getting a full story from ANYONE. We don&#039;t know all the details. There is no way to absolutely know all the details! You can&#039;t say that everyone who attends Newspring is like these four (or however many) people! They are not all hypocrites! Blatant generalizations like that make you all sound like morons.I&#039;m just saying. I am NOT saying that what was done by Dr. D was right, because it wasn&#039;t, but I don&#039;t think we can make assumptions. I think that people need to try to be objective, stop being biased, stop being stupid. CHILL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone just needs to cool their jets. No one is getting a full story from ANYONE. We don&#8217;t know all the details. There is no way to absolutely know all the details! You can&#8217;t say that everyone who attends Newspring is like these four (or however many) people! They are not all hypocrites! Blatant generalizations like that make you all sound like morons.I&#8217;m just saying. I am NOT saying that what was done by Dr. D was right, because it wasn&#8217;t, but I don&#8217;t think we can make assumptions. I think that people need to try to be objective, stop being biased, stop being stupid. CHILL.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, have you read anything?  Why sue? (if indeed he is suing?) because protecting himself against all these nutballs has cost a LOT OF MONEY.

You&#039;re right it&#039;s a free country and Perry doesn&#039;t have to meet with him.  But the point is that a real Christian pastor would see this as an opportunity to MINISTER to James Duncan (if indeed Duncan was in the wrong as Perry insists) and heap coals of fire on his head through a loving act, taking the time to listen, and finding out just how badly he was hurt by his staff, who he agrees went too far and whom he has held &#039;accountable&#039; by firing.

What it looks like to me is that even with all the other stuff going on, which Noble had to be aware of, he was still openly engaging in mutual admiration with his criminally minded staff!  At the very least it is a testimony to the fact that the church&#039;s growth there is not healthy growth, but cancerous growth, and Perry Noble is not cut out to actually be a pastor, at least not of a group of people that size, if he cannot keep tabs on what is going on with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, have you read anything?  Why sue? (if indeed he is suing?) because protecting himself against all these nutballs has cost a LOT OF MONEY.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right it&#8217;s a free country and Perry doesn&#8217;t have to meet with him.  But the point is that a real Christian pastor would see this as an opportunity to MINISTER to James Duncan (if indeed Duncan was in the wrong as Perry insists) and heap coals of fire on his head through a loving act, taking the time to listen, and finding out just how badly he was hurt by his staff, who he agrees went too far and whom he has held &#8216;accountable&#8217; by firing.</p>
<p>What it looks like to me is that even with all the other stuff going on, which Noble had to be aware of, he was still openly engaging in mutual admiration with his criminally minded staff!  At the very least it is a testimony to the fact that the church&#8217;s growth there is not healthy growth, but cancerous growth, and Perry Noble is not cut out to actually be a pastor, at least not of a group of people that size, if he cannot keep tabs on what is going on with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Isom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Isom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr.Duncan your family and my brothers and sisters in Christ. I from the depths of my soul apologize for the harassment you&#039;ve been subject to. I just don&#039;t see why you are suing  NS. I would understand the adoption agency, the nurse, the hospital, the parties involved, but with today&#039;s technology anyone can blog comment or hack from any where. If perry doesn&#039;t want to meet with you why should he? The parties involved were fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.Duncan your family and my brothers and sisters in Christ. I from the depths of my soul apologize for the harassment you&#8217;ve been subject to. I just don&#8217;t see why you are suing  NS. I would understand the adoption agency, the nurse, the hospital, the parties involved, but with today&#8217;s technology anyone can blog comment or hack from any where. If perry doesn&#8217;t want to meet with you why should he? The parties involved were fired.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remove the blinders, JT. Put down the kool-aid. Have you paid attention, at all, to what JDuncan said about the adoption?

He is the victim. Why don&#039;t you go ask NS how they interpret the past few months. What did they do to stop any of it? They were told this summer something was happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remove the blinders, JT. Put down the kool-aid. Have you paid attention, at all, to what JDuncan said about the adoption?</p>
<p>He is the victim. Why don&#8217;t you go ask NS how they interpret the past few months. What did they do to stop any of it? They were told this summer something was happening.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan-

Again, I&#039;m sorry for what you went through.

But your attempts to tie the actions of one staff member and three volunteers to the leadership at NewSpring is a stretch. This post is just one example. How does Noble&#039;s quote from November 24th at all indicate that, &quot;He seemed to go out of his way to embrace the cast of characters I described in my Holy Rage post.&quot;

And how the heck do the tweeted birthday wishes implicate Noble? Am I missing something?

If there really was any credible proof that they knew and/or encouraged illegal harassment by one of their employees aimed at you, wouldn&#039;t this now be a matter of the law? It seems to me that they would have at least made a counter to your $3,000,000 proposal, if their lawyer thought you had any case at all. The &quot;He subscribed to the other guy&#039;s twitter account&quot; argument doesn&#039;t really hold water.

Maybe you ought to revisit the idea of pursuing justice against the individuals who subjected you to this campaign of harassment. If anybody owes you a settlement, it&#039;s those guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan-</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m sorry for what you went through.</p>
<p>But your attempts to tie the actions of one staff member and three volunteers to the leadership at NewSpring is a stretch. This post is just one example. How does Noble&#8217;s quote from November 24th at all indicate that, &#8220;He seemed to go out of his way to embrace the cast of characters I described in my Holy Rage post.&#8221;</p>
<p>And how the heck do the tweeted birthday wishes implicate Noble? Am I missing something?</p>
<p>If there really was any credible proof that they knew and/or encouraged illegal harassment by one of their employees aimed at you, wouldn&#8217;t this now be a matter of the law? It seems to me that they would have at least made a counter to your $3,000,000 proposal, if their lawyer thought you had any case at all. The &#8220;He subscribed to the other guy&#8217;s twitter account&#8221; argument doesn&#8217;t really hold water.</p>
<p>Maybe you ought to revisit the idea of pursuing justice against the individuals who subjected you to this campaign of harassment. If anybody owes you a settlement, it&#8217;s those guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.</p>
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