Comments on: Noble: We don’t fight critics (except when we do)

By: Sylvia

Sylvia — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:16:57 +0000

Mr.Duncan,
I would like to think that I would scream bloody murder, but, wow, I don’t even know. I already find the guy terrifying, I wonder if I wouldn’t just shut down completely. I mean, the thought of a person coming up and just feeling free to touch me like that, and then speaking in that really ridiculing tone—-it just has such an ugly, gendered, bullying quality to it.
The dude expressed his desire to, firstly, destabilize her by invading her space, secondly create a false dichotomy; entertained vs. bored (I think the right answer is “C”‘fed from the word of God’)and, thirdly, try to pass off a bogus and contrived definition of the word “entertainment”. Basically, he was talking about bullying her into accepting a completely fallacious argument through brute domination.
Ugh, I’m sorry if I sound like Ms.Magazine here. That’s really not where I’m coming from at all. Its actually because I’m NOT a feminist that I wish that pastor’s like this and the men in their congregations would lead with gentleness and consider the entire flock, not just the unregenerate, 30-something, male Jackie Gleason fans who might be visiting.

By: James Duncan

James Duncan — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:03:21 +0000

CC, I found this stuff pretty funny.

By: Corner Coffee

Corner Coffee — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:29:33 +0000

Duncan,
Does any humor NOT offend you?

By: James Duncan

James Duncan — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:48:37 +0000

Sorry, CC, I must have misread you.

I do see it clearly now. A pastor confessing to consuming violent urges against young Christian women is absolutely hilarious, especially when he’s setting up a story about a staffer whom he just fired.

What a riot.

By: Corner Coffee

Corner Coffee — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:38:32 +0000

Duncan,
Are we seriously back here … again? I’m just going to quote what I said above:

“The story is real. The part about wanting to beat up a girl is obviously a joke.”

By: James Duncan

James Duncan — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:23:46 +0000

At least we seem to have reached a consensus that it wasn’t a joke.

By: JT

JT — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:53:57 +0000

Coffee,

I said the same thing in the very first comment, which was ignored:

“In general terms, my objection to this post is that you’ve taken examples which were offered as what not to do, and then you’ve implied that Noble was endorsing those behaviors.”

By: Seth

Seth — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:50:32 +0000

Corner Coffee

Duncan just wants Perry to be perfect like his pastor at his church.

I personally find it fresh that the Pastor shares what he struggles with to the congregation, it makes him more human and shows that he is a normal person who struggles with normal things. Kind of like what Paul does in Romans 7:14-21. Paul is honest and shows that he is really no different than anyone else. I count it as a humility thing, when one can confess their short-comings infront of thousands of people.

By: Corner Coffee

Corner Coffee — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:47:32 +0000

1. The girl obviously provoked him. I doubt she would have been surprised or upset. She was looking to start a fight about it. (at least according to Noble’s version of the events)

2. HE DIDN’T DO IT. He wanted to, but he didn’t. That’s the point!!! He admitted he was wrong. He went ON and ON about how he was wrong for wanting to do it. He used it as an illustration to his congregation on what NOT TO DO.

What more do you want from the guy?

By: James Duncan

James Duncan — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:32:56 +0000

Sylvia (or any other lady), how would you have felt having him come and put his arm around you like that?