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Noble apologized for Hebrew command claim and for Twitter insult

Noble apologized for his Hebrew “command” claim and for a Twitter insult

This afternoon Perry Noble published an apology for his Christmas Eve sermon and for a Twitter insult he directed at critics of that sermon. The apology is welcome, as are the signs that he’s sensitive to getting the issue right.

As it stands now, however, there are significant flaws in the position that Noble appears to hold, especially when this is the time to be clear and precise. The apology seems to reaffirm his claim that the Commandments, even though written as imperatives, are not actually legal rules. This is a paradox that seems difficult to maintain, though maybe we’ll see further clarification from Noble in the next few days.

I had almost finished a response to a post Noble had written yesterday in which he essentially repeated the claims in the sermon. Rather than publishing that today, I will wait and see if he changes yesterday’s post in light of today’s statement.

These aren’t trivial matters, and it’s important that we get them right. If Noble is getting them right, it’s also important to rejoice with him and affirm our unity.

The signs are positive, so let’s take a moment or two to see how things develop.

29 thoughts on “Noble’s apology and a brief pause

  1. Scott Ripley Jan 9, 2015 9:04 pm

    I’m thinking the same thing. There might be hope yet for this man.

  2. Mary Willis Jan 9, 2015 9:10 pm

    I’m happy to see him retract and apologize. Hope he continues to look at his words.

  3. Stephen Jan 9, 2015 9:18 pm

    Thank you, Mr. Noble!!

  4. Joe Blackmon Jan 9, 2015 9:28 pm

    Maybe there is hope he’ll repent and believe the gospel yet

  5. Not confused Jan 9, 2015 9:57 pm

    If this is true: “#3 – I take teaching the Bible very seriously and desperately want to always put forth my best effort “, then why did he quit seminary AND, does he think the priests and pastors he has criticized in the past don’t take teaching the Bible seriously?

  6. Humblylearning Jan 9, 2015 10:18 pm

    Quite surprising and as well encouraging to see Mr. Noble at least slightly admit he made an error in his understanding. Perhaps this opens up the possibility of change in his approach, and maybe more careful studying of whatever he chooses to teach in the future to really make sure it’s Scripture-based teaching.

  7. Dogwithablog Jan 9, 2015 11:11 pm

    Love P & his transparency & his honesty in this post. Also loved seeing your blog being encouraging & my hopes that one day all Christian leaders can unite & encourage one another rather than tear each other down. Oh the souls that could be saved. & to respouse from a guy about about Perry dropping out of seminary…I don’t think that makes him not put forth a best effort. I went to scho for business before I was called into ministry & the Lord keeps providing new ways for me to learn about him. & I think Perry is one of the most knowledgable people because he has that hunger. I pray for both sides of this agruement that even if we agree to disagree we can encourage each other and show grace & Jesus’s love for one another.

  8. JM Jan 9, 2015 11:45 pm

    This is Mark Driscoll all over again. Step down now!

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  10. Tommy Jan 10, 2015 12:41 am

    This is a start, but like Dr. Duncan, I still see a problem. My main problem with Noble’s apology was the fact that he quoted 1 Corinthians 1:21 which says, “For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe,” and the context in which he used it. This is yet another great example of Perry Noble twisting Scripture to mean what he wants it to mean. What he is essentially saying is that, though a false gospel was preached, 200 people still got saved as a result of it. I personally find that extremely difficult to believe.

    As Dr. Duncan has said from the beginning, in order for Perry Noble to admit that what he taught Christmas Eve was false, he would also have to admit that those who made professions of faith as a result of that message had most likely had false conversions. If his apology is sincere, his main concern ought to be reaching out to those two hundred to be sure that they did indeed come to true repentance and faith in Christ. If they were simply saying yes to Jesus, as he pleaded with them to do, because they thought that His Law meant nothing, then I’m afraid that what they have is not the eternal salvation that God gives to those who come to Him in true repentance, acknowledging their sinfulness, and trusting Christ alone to take them to Heaven when they die. If that is not what took place in the lives of those 200 people that night, I am truly afraid that 200 people are still on their way to Hell. This is serious, serious stuff, folks, and we ought not to take it lightly.

  11. RG Leverett Jan 10, 2015 12:45 am

    I think Noble is like a lot of big mega church pastors. They’re full of good intentions and full of charisma. But they generally lack in basic theological education and basic knowledge of the biblical languages. The exegesis in his sermon was horrible reflecting a lack of theological and biblical knowledge. His basic premise about the 10 commandments not being commandments is sheer nonsense.

    But his application wasn’t that bad. In fact his application of seeing the Commandments as a promise could still be used as application while still understanding that the 10 commandments are law that we fall far short of. Noble seems to misunderstand or feels the need to lessen the call to point nonbelievers and believers to see their sin when they look at the commandments. But he needs to understand that sinners need to see the bad news before they see the good news. I think his intentions are good but his lack of theological understanding causes huge problems.
    With a more solid exegesis and biblical and theological understanding his preaching would be more substantial, more biblical and effective.

  12. learning every day Jan 10, 2015 12:58 am

    It is good to see that Mr. Noble is now open to the possibility that there were serious problems with his recent communications, though it’s hard to see that he really understands the significance and though there are still excuses here. (“The pressure of this situation has been intense. I have had to endure…”)

    Far more serious that the tweet is for how what he taught and then further defended affects our understanding of the living God and our relationship to him. I’m not just thinking of the original sermon but of the Jan 8 post linked above, largely uncorrected in the apology which makes it sound like this is simply an issue on which the Bible is unclear and on which “godly people” disagree.

    First of all, if Mr. Noble and other NewSpringers, have the funds and time to make multiple trips to Israel, why not invest a little in actually studying Hebrew and Greek? Clearly Mr. Perry and NewSpringers believe that the original meaning of the text matters, that English translations and past scholars, including even other SBC scholars, are not adequate guides to the original meaning of the text, that only driver and other friends in Israel have the key to the original meaning, hidden for all these ages by those other Christians who don’t get it like they do. So why not study the original languages then, there are schools all over the world that teach Biblical Hebrew and Koine Greek?

    For the record, here is “literally” what the Hebrew says:

    Exodus 21:1: ??????????? ????????? ???? ????? ???????????? ????????? ???????

    “Spoke (dabbar) God all the words/sayings (debarim, which is the plural noun form, not “dibrot”) to.say:”

    Exodus 34:28b ???????????? ???? ????????? ???? ????????? ?????????? ????????? ?????????????

    “…wrote on the tablets [direct object] words (devrei, same root, here genitive plural), of.the.covenant ten the.words (debarim).

    The root ??? has a wide variety of meanings and usages in Hebrew, used thousands of times in its various constructions. (I got 2662 hits in the BibleWorks Massoretic text, but due to the many constructions of this root, I may have still missed some.) Any pastor or other Christian who wants to base a sermon or revision of personal understanding of Scriptures upon the “literal meaning” of Hebrew words would do well to actually study the Hebrew her or himself before teaching others that “thus saith the Lord” (or “this is what God’s Word really means.”) Because to teach others wrongly is a very serious thing.

    However, without studying Hebrew and simply reading an adequate translation of the Bible in any language, we see that false dichotomies like in Noble’s Jan 8th blog: “God isn’t a God in heaven who is screaming to us that we are not good, but rather showing us over and over that He is good” are utterly unbiblical. It is statements like these and the attitude Mr. Noble displayed, promoted even, not just in his words but in his body language during the original sermon that are much more serious than his confusion over Hebrew vocabulary. When Mr. Noble effectively mocks an understanding of God as righteously angry, as the just judge of all the earth, he is making it more difficult his listeners to encounter the true, living, terrifying God as he has revealed himself in his word. To paraphrase Lewis, “He is good, but he is not tame.” How dare we domesticate God.

    From beginning to end the Bible teaches us both that we are not good and that God is good. There is no contradiction between God telling us that we are not good and he himself being good and this is, in fact, the message of the Bible! Simply read it, yes, all of it, from Genesis to Revelation, not mitigated by Mr. Noble’s selective erasing words off a screen but as it is written and see how often God tells us that we are not good and that he is good. Is he screaming? At Sinai it was sounds of thunder, blowing of ram’s horns, lightening, smoke, fire, but no screaming. On judgment day I don’t know that there will be screaming either. But since that day in Eden until the present time and up until judgment day his consistent message has been that we are not good.

    Even the last book of the Bible ends with a warning (essentially a command) as well as a promise and a blessing:

    Rev 1:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will takeaway his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. 20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! 21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen.

    The promise is only good news if we heed the warnings! If one reads the rest of the book, however one interprets it, one can only conclude that Jesus’ coming will not be good news for those who have failed to heed his warnings, including this one. What else do we call it when Mr. Noble literally removes God’s own words from a screen presenting a Scripture passage and inserts his own words in their place? Hopefully Mr. Noble’s next post will publicly repent of this, so that others will not be tempted to follow his example in this in their own lives, teaching and evangelism. It is the fear of the Lord that is the beginning of wisdom. Thankfully he is merciful also and we are still in the day of repentance.

    Why does this matter? Isn’t this just theological quibbling? We all have different understandings, right? Mr. Duncan is surely making a mountain out of a molehill, missing the forest for the trees. What matters is the “fruit” the thousands of baptisms, “200 people com[ing] to Christ” at the 10 commandments sermon alone, Mr. Noble tells us. So Mr. Noble must be in God’s favor, right? But how many hearts were truly regenerated? It’s not “coming to Christ” that matters, the Pharisees “came to Christ,” and when Jesus preached some of his sermons almost all deserted him. The fruit of the Spirit is not baptisms, that’s the fruit of good marketing, and believe me, the Mormons, the Muslims, the Hindus can draw an even bigger crowd than Mr. Noble. Paul tells us what the fruit of the Spirit is in Gal 5…

    Spirit-changed lives resulting in saints willing to suffer joyfully–whose hope is in seeing Jesus face to face, not a good life now. Those under the altar crying out “how long, O Lord?” are martyrs. More Christians are dying for their faith in our lifetime than ever before.

    The world is going to hell, and not just spiritually, environmentally, politically…terrible things are happening every where and it is the fault of sinful humans, and God is not okay with that. Anyone how takes the time to read the Bible from cover to cover consider the places where God is described as angry, a warrior, and we, sinful humans, are literally his enemies.

    And yet while we were still his enemies he sent his son to die for us. But until we really understand that we are his enemies, that we are not just not good, but utterly selfish and inclined to rebel against God our maker. I am glad to hear Mr. Noble affirm that we have all broken the ten commandments. And there is a promise for those who break God’s commands, and it is being slaughtered as the sacrificial animals were. As Jesus was.

    Because Jesus chose to be on the receiving end of that promise, we are freed not just from the penalty of our sins but to life lives not self-absorbed, being the means God uses to love those still in the darkness of their own sin, poverty, sexual slavery, Ebola, etc. What kind of a Gospel results in Christians who are literally willing to die for Ebola victims or the refugees of South Sudan or the persecuted minorities of Iraq and Syria? Only a Gospel that teaches people who utterly lost they are and is not afraid to let them feel that despair and then, and only then, offers the good news of the Savior.

    Since Mr. Noble has indicated a desire to repent of the erroneous teaching he spread on Christmas and two weeks later still defended, and since repentance is more than just saying “sorry” but actually turning and walking in the other direction, here are a few ideas for new year’s resolutions:

    1. Read the whole Bible again in its entirety and honestly think about what the main themes and focus is, how can we proclaim God’s Word in God’s way?

    2. Begin studying the original languages of the Bible. These are not essential for getting the Bible’s message, but are very useful for a teacher of others for being able to discern truth for error. If necessary, take a sabbatical to study these languages and exegetical principles. My family of seven lives on $50,000 a year, perhaps the church will allocate that much for a study leave for Mr. Noble’s family.

    3. Encourage the NewSpringers to read through the entire Bible and begin evaluating every sermon, small group, class, activity, church website, blog, billboard, tweet from church staff, etc. in light of the Bible as the Bereans evaluated Paul’s communications. The “owners” could actually have a role in helping the whole community become more Christ-like in this way, as the goal is not big numbers, but God’s glory.

    Don’t worry, I do take my own medicine, and I do share the Gospel with unbelievers also; I am not spending all my days in a basement blogging in my pajamas!

  13. learning every day Jan 10, 2015 1:01 am

    My apologies that my Hebrew font cannot be displayed here; if anyone wants to see the Hebrew text, you can use the [vowel pointed] Westminster Leningrad Codex of the Massoretic text at BibleGateway:
    link to biblegateway.com

  14. Lee Jan 10, 2015 1:29 am

    Where are you great biblical teachers in Anderson? For 40 years, I have not found you. In particular you RG Leverett and Learning Every Day, where do you you spread your light besides under the Pajamapages basket? I surely have found no great Hebrew and Greek scholars sharing their teachings in Anderson. The only one that I have run across that taught about our Hebrew roots was Pastor Ed Nelson when he preached at Cornerstone.

    You do not know much about NS LRD to make your statement in 3. The encouragement by Pastor P to read the bible, study together and be a light to SC is tremendous. Again, not seen that focus anywhere else in Anderson.

    • RG Leverett Jan 10, 2015 8:29 pm

      I don’t presently live in Anderson but I lived in the area 20 years ago before Newspring was started. My primary observations come from listening to the sermons via web,news accounts and my own personal experience with evangelical mega churches. Many evangelical churches and pastors are long on charisma and short on solid theological education. I don’t believe Noble is purposely pursuing heresy or false teaching. I believe his intentions are most likely honest. But it’s easy to get distracted by the latest theological fad when you are ignorant of theological history and mistakes of the past.

      But Noble’s apology is a step in the right direction.

  15. learning every day Jan 10, 2015 3:08 am

    Hi Lee, my purpose is not to lead sheep away from NS but see NS be faithful in proclaiming the full counsel of God. I am hopefully that this can still happen if this incident serves as a wake up call to not just “Pastor P” and rest of the staff but all the “owners” as well. (Btw, I’m not listing my real name because I currently work in a part of the world not friendly to what we’re discussing here.)

    Regarding point #3, the point was not “read the Bible,” but read ALL of the Bible, including the parts not often chosen as preaching texts. (I do admire Noble for choosing to preach from the OT at Christmas, and do agree that the OT all points to Jesus.) If that’s already happening, the thousands of NS “owners” are reading through all the Bible regularly, not just their favorite passages, then I’m sure there were many who realized how off the exegesis of Ex 20/Deut 5 was two weeks ago, and who also understood that pitting God’s righteous condemnation of human sin (“that we are not good” against his own holiness (“that he is good”) is an unbiblical representation of God. If the owners all followed the NT’s commands to “turn a brother from the error of his ways,” and confronted Noble on these matters, and in the days that common he diligently seeks the to know the Scriptures more thoroughly and eventually leads his congregation to understand human depravity, God’s holiness, and the gospel more thoroughly then much good will come of this, not just for Anderson, but for elsewhere also. (And then, in the future there will be Hebrew and Greek scholars shedding their light there in Anderson!)

    • Tommy Jan 10, 2015 4:15 am

      You make a very good point, and I am ashamed to say that I haven’t thought of this when it comes to NewSpring. Years ago, I purposed to see the positive in every situation, but yet I haven’t been looking for it with NewSpring. Yes, it is true that I believe Perry Noble has been responsible for many false conversions over the past fifteen years or so; however, like Joni Eareckson Tada always says, “God permits what He hates in order to accomplish and achieve that which He loves.” Today, we look at NewSpring and see a so-called “church” that is for the most part blasphemous, irreverent, and dishonoring to God. However, wouldn’t it be wonderful if Perry Noble were to get a bulldog grip on the truth of God’s Word and allow God to use him to influence all 40,000 some odd members of NewSpring for Christ? This ought to be our prayer for Perry Noble and NewSpring Church.

  16. aimee knight Jan 10, 2015 7:08 am

    I believe that Perry does have a bulldog grip on the Truth and he presents it every Sunday from that stage. This church is not perfect, and it never set out to be a “megachurch”…it was a Bible study that outgrew itself and rather than box in the movement of the Holy Spirit by saying “theres no room in the inn”, Newspring just created space for the Lord to work. Which gives Perry a huge territory–and responsibility–to the Holy Spirit.

    I do believe that Perry was led by God to speak this message, but maybe not for the reasons he thought originally. I think God wanted this heated conversation to take place so that instead of talking about one another, anti- and pro- Newspring people will talk TO each other about what we believe and Who we follow. For the most part, both camps follow the same leader…Jesus Christ. In addition, I think Perry preached thos message the way he did out of FEAR, and it wouldnt suprise me a bit if you heard him acknowledge that at some point. Perry knows every Sunday people from around the state have been begging God to save their family and friends, and those people are coming to his church. Eternity hangs in the balance and Perry has to feel that pressure. Of course, he is not the holy spirit so he doesnt “save people” , but the weight of a message falls solely on his shoulders. The same message, presented differently, would have never gotten anyone’s attention. He could have taught how following the 10 commandments can only be done with
    empowerment of the Holy Spirit and the Lord
    makes those promises to people who have accepted the healing of the Holy Spirit. But if he had we wouldnt be talking about that message. I believe that what makes Perry different from Mark Driscoll–and probably even YOUR OWN pastor–is that Perry will admit his frailties, weaknesses, and mistakes. He doesnt pretend he is perfect. Many former church goers have been crushed under the weight of their pastor’s ego. Many of those people were led to Newspring as a result. And before this is all over, anti-Newspring people will see he truly has a heart for Christ, not for misleading people.

    • Charles Jan 12, 2015 10:01 am

      Aimee, I’m glad that Perry can admin certain frailties, weaknesses and mistakes, that does give us hope. Now will he repent? Repentance means taking specific steps of obedience to change. What went wrong here was not just a minor misunderstanding of Hebrew. It was the fruit of a system focused on a single man and his (remarkable) gifts, his ability to make a bond with his audience, to create a type of intimacy, false because it only goes one way. You know Perry, or you think you do, but he doesn’t know you. We can find pastors who are more arrogant, and less willing to acknowledge fault, I agree. My pastor does not happen to be one though, mine is one who has not formed a church around his personality. He is one who humbly left a high-paying professional carrier and like a child put himself under the teaching of seminary professors in midlife to learn how to teach the Scripture well but learning the original languages, sound exegesis, the history of its interpretation, believing that it is God’s will for us to learn not from personal revelations in the shower, but from his Word, carefully studied with the wise insights of more mature Christians, even those who happened to have been born before we were. He then submitted himself to examination by other elders of the church and when found acceptable to preach the Word, not just in terms of his preparation and theology, but also in his personal character, including gentleness, kindness, humility, etc. he was then allowed to submit himself to a counsel of church elders, and his theology to a confession of faith. The church is not his church, it is Christ’s church, and should he stray from the confession of faith or should the elders have reason to question his consistency with his profession in teaching or conduct, and should he refuse to not just apologize but repent, then the church will continue its ministry without his service. Can you say the same of New Spring? Not only that, but my pastor knows all of his sheep by name (as Jesus knows his), and any of us could meet with him personally within the next month, probably the next week, and confront him in person (not on a blog) if he preached anything like the errors preached at NS two weeks ago. Can the owners of NewSpring confront Perry in this way? So the problem is a lot more than a misunderstanding of Hebrew or a rude Twitter comment, or even other statements like “you suck as a person,” (if you show up to church late, saying you don’t like the music). It is the system, which does not allow either the congregation or Perry himself to have the kind of direct, personal, accountability and submission to each other that the New Testament clearly indicates that congregations of Christ church ought to have. It’s not healthy for the members, when the congregation is focused on the teachings and gifts of a single man, its not health for the celebrity preacher! No wonder we have so many of these sad stories in megachurch evangelicalism! What good is it to say “he’s not as bad as Driscoll”? What good is that Perry’s heart is good if the whole system is unhealthy? I don’t think he intentionally wants to mislead, but I do think that his past teaching and actions, not just on Dec 24, indicates that he neither understands the Gospel well enough, (if you’re right and he preached out of fear, feeling pressure for unsaved relatives, then he really doesn’t understand the Gospel). Nor has he shown himself in the past six years to demonstrate the personal maturity to hold the spiritual authority that he wields over the thousands that have entrusted him with their soulcare, as well as their tithes. I don’t doubt his own salvation for a minute, but he has put himself, or let himself be put into a situation that is terribly unhealthy for any Christian. There is no indication whatsover in the Bible that any Christian should ever be trying to be the spiritual shepherd for 35,000 people! (Perhaps you’ll tell me about NS’s large staff, but it was Perry and apparently Perry alone who “heard the word from Jesus” and called everyone back to hear the Christmas Eve message, not lots of different teachers in lots of different medium-sized congregations leading small, personal, services, under the oversight of a board of elders on Christmas Eve. I’m sure the pressure on him is incredible, and he has my sympathy, but that doesn’t mean you all should keep up propping up an unhealthy, unbiblical system with your money, attendance and cheer-leading. No wonder Perry says the things he says and has to apologize afterwards! The most loving thing you all can do for Perry is to leave, go to a smaller church, or break off and form new churches with their own, qualified elders, and let Perry serve a small group of folks, as Jesus did, and grow together with them. We just need one “rock star” and his name is Jesus. We don’t need celebrity pastors, and it’s not their creative, original preaching and packaging that truly saves souls, it’s the Spirit through the Word, the same Spirit and same Gospel that saved Paul on the Damascus road.

      I have a five-year-old. Shall I send her to a school where a few teachers with terrible tempers who have never actually graduated from high school themselves try to teach 35,000 five-year-old how to read? Especially if right down the street there was a school with a college-educated teacher with a kind heart taught a class of 25 children? Would the fact that the overcrowded, under-qualified school had a better logo, playground, and my five year old thought it was “cooler” affect my decision as a parent? Isn’t the teaching of the Scriptures and the care of souls even more important that literacy? Who cares if NS has a great band and is cool? Be the guardian of our own soul and go where your soul can be nourished with careful teaching of the Word by someone who knows you and whom you also can minister to, including through accountability.

      There are many small, biblical, congregations in the US where the pastor has submitted himself to rigorous study of the Bible under people older than himself (including the writings of dead people!), a confession of faith, a board of elders (overseers, etc.), his own members. I know of some in Anderson. (Yes, there are Greek and Hebrew exegetes in Anderson!) The worship may not have as cool music (but perhaps words that actually still sound meaningful when you recite them without the guitar and drums). But what will matter one hundred years from now? That you attended one of the largest churches in America? Or that you were prepared to meet God and had real role in out-ward focused service to Christ’s body and the lost during your limited time in this body?

  17. Kevin Boling Jan 10, 2015 8:01 am

    While I’m happy that he at least admits some wrong doing, in typical Perry Noble fashion you’re forced to parse every sentence to see exactly what is being said. When you do that unfortunately the statement is lacking true repentance 🙁
    #NeverMessUpAnApologyWithAnExcuse

    • Not confused Jan 12, 2015 6:06 pm

      I agree with Kevin. Also, what is the true meaning when someone says God pressured me to do this action, and then apologizes for the action? Didn’t Bush claim that God spoke to him before he authorized the invasion of Iraq? I believe that when someone says that God told them to do something, they are often using this statement to gain power and legitimacy in cases where power and legitimacy may be viewed as weak. I have read the apology several times and find it to be self aggrandizing and confusing, and not genuine.

  18. Escaped Jan 10, 2015 8:29 am

    We’ll see. He has offered apologies and excuses on several occasions in the past. Perry needs to continually be held publicly accountable–accountability doesn’t seem to come from within the walls of the church, staff or ‘owners’. The rock star public image for some of these guys is their Achilles heel. Good job, Dr. Duncan.

  19. Up the road Jan 10, 2015 9:16 am

    It was refreshing to see this. I am OK with giving him some space to grow. I appreciate Dr. Duncan’s acknowledgement that this is a step in the right direction.

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  21. Fred Jan 10, 2015 10:03 am

    To Kevin Boling- from one Reformed guy to another, can’t we cut the guy a little slack? What sir, in your infinite wisdom, would true repentance look like in this matter?

    • Tommy Jan 10, 2015 5:11 pm

      True repentance, for me, would be him issuing a public statement to those two hundred who supposedly gave their lives to Christ as a result of his erroneous and twisted message, making sure that they fully understand that they have broken God’s holy Law and are on their way to Hell unless they turn from their sin and embrace the fact that God sent His Son to exchange His righteousness for their sinfulness that they might be saved. You can’t just trick people into salvation. It simply doesn’t work that way.

  22. Ed Jan 10, 2015 10:55 am

    For those who are questioning the sincerity and genuineness of Mr. Noble’s repentance, especially those who appreciate the reformed faith, may I cite WCF 15: 5 which reads, ” Men ought not to content themselves with a general repentance, but it is every man’s duty to endeavor to repent of his particular sins, particularly”

    Mr. Noble committed two particular sins, denying the existence of the word command in the Hebrew language and posting a comment on Twitter critical of his detractors and by his own admission spoken out of frustration. In his public apology, I.e. his public blog available on the World Wide Web. Mr. Noble, acknowledged both errors, apologized, and asked forgiveness.

    Additionally, WCF 15:6 states, ” As every man is bound to make private confession of his sins to God, praying for the pardon thereof; upon which, and the forsaking of them, he shall find mercy, so, he that scandalizeth his brother, or the church of Christ, ought to be willing, by private or public confession, and sorrow for sin, to declare his repentance to those that are offended, who are three pin to be reconciled to him, and in love to receive them.”

    We, having heard Mr. Nobles public confession and plea for forgiveness, now have e responsibility to ” be reconciled to him, and in love to receive him.”

    In the words of the apostle Paul in Colossians 3:12 ff, ” Put on then, as God’s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another, and if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.”

    Brothers and sisters, no doubt Mr. Noble will err in the future as will you and I. Let’s take what he’s offered and rejoice in what God has done in this. Let’s lay down our weapons, ask God to cauterize our tongues, and move forward as brothers and sisters with the Great Commission.

  23. RLS Jan 11, 2015 6:14 pm

    The apology is fine and maybe it is a start for PN to actually study the Scriptures before he proclaims a false teaching. However, two things remain deeply troubling. One, PN stated that God told him to preach that sermon. In light of the aberrancy of the teaching, the question must be asked “what god is he hearing from?” There is only one true God and He does not make mistakes. Second, PN has directly contradicted the Lord Jesus Christ who responded to the Rich Young Ruler’s query regarding entry into eternal life by stating “keep the commandments” (the Greek here is” entole”)(Luke 18:19-20). Obviously, keeping the commandments does not save anyone. The righteous requirements of the law are only fulfilled by the person and work of Christ through God’s grace through faith. However, as Paul discusses at length in Romans, The Law and comnandments show us our short-comings juxtaposed with God’s holiness and hence the need for repentance and a savior. When PN perverts this central doctrine he eviscerates the Gospel message completely. This is not something to be taken lightly. This is not something to be brushed aside in the name of “Christian unity.” This is outright heresey and disqualifies him as a pastor/teacher.

  24. Bella Beth Feb 8, 2015 8:28 pm

    Perry’s sermon for Christmas Eve was laid on his heart by God for ME. I applaud Perry for following God’s command. Because of his sermon, I rededicated my life that night. WHY? Because as we learn from reading the Word, it all comes down to having FAITH in Jesus and LOVING everyone…and when you do and turn to Jesus every day, you automatically fulfill the commandments AND receive the PROMISES Perry shared. How amazing to know that I can trust in a name above all names?! How comforting to realize that when a couple turns to God each day, their family will not fall apart because of the examples they are setting for their children and others who see them?! How refreshing to discover that when I place my trust in God, I will never again be disappointed! How fantastic to know God is providing!
    Just imagine if we all LOVED one another, cooperated and collaborated together, and began creating heaven on earth. This is what NewSpring Church is doing for people. Acts 13:39 NIV “Through Jesus everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses.” And the best of all, Romans 13:8-10 NIV “Love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments (do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not covet) and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore, love is the fulfillment of the law.”
    God was calling me back to him Christmas Eve through Perry’s sermon. I answered. All the glory to God, through Jesus Christ, forever. May God’s grace be with each and every one.

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