The Discipleship Dodge

The Discipleship Dodge
In this post, we find Steven Furtick, once again, tirelessly running through any snippet of scripture possible in order to justify his actions: (ACTS 2:42) They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. Did you catch it?  They devoted themselves.  Who devoted themselves?  The ...

Not every blessing should be turned into a press release

Perry Noble apparently didn’t enjoy our 1,000 baptisms in four minutes post a few days ago, and responded in a highly capitalized post yesterday. You can read it all here, but to save you time, here are a few excerpts: Sure, there ARE people in this world who will question what is happening in your ...

Criticize Me

Criticize Me
Let’s start with an honest comment from Furtick: When I make comments about refusing to let critics upset me, it’s usually b/c a critic has just upset me. I appreciate Steven’s honesty. I have often wondered why the Turnstile pastors spend so much time talking about, blogging about, tweeting about, how much they don’t care ...

How to baptize 1,000 people in four minutes

Last weekend Noble and Furtick announced the astounding news that between them they’d baptized more than a thousand people. I was curious to see how they did it, especially given that, for NewSpring at least, none of the baptism candidates knew about the baptism until a few minutes before they entered the water. How did ...

What counts as holy?

A line from Noble’s sermon this afternoon: God couldn’t give a crap about your happiness when it comes to his holiness. If God is holy, what does he give a crap about? Should the holiness of God have any effect on how we talk about him?

Coop, perhaps you want to reword this

Coop, perhaps you want to reword this
NewSpring preacher, Brad Cooper, summarizes his latest sermon on worship like this: Worship should matter to us because WE BECOME WHAT WE WORSHIP! So right now as you read these very words you are evolving into your object of Worship. There’s only 2 kinds of Worship objects in this world: GOD & BAD – So ...

Sobering Psalm

For those who assume that God wouldn’t let a movement he disapproves of succeed, Psalm 50 is worth a read. What right have you to recite my laws or take my covenant on your lips? You hate my instruction and cast my words behind you. When you see a thief, you join with him; you ...

Was Jesus just a dumb hick?

The answer, of course, is no, but one might be excused for coming to that conclusion after reading Andy Stanley’s assault on pastoral ministry in this lauded interview from 2007. Stanley the Younger is a lead-by-example advocate of CEO pastoring and wants to run through the Bible with a large bottle of whiteout to get ...

Who’s playing this game?

Oftentimes when NewSpring marks important spiritual moments like salvations and baptisms, its members and ministers celebrate publicly by announcing that they’re running up the score against the devil, as Noble did recently and Cooper did last night. Three questions: If someone dies without being saved by Christ, who has scored? Does it mean that God lost, ...

Noble’s Defense of Multi-site Churches

Noble's Defense of Multi-site Churches
After watching this clip, I didn’t know whether to laugh, cry, or just be angry. I think I’m starting to settle in on anger, and here’s why: He starts out by saying people have problems with multi-site churches because they played basketball for a team that didn’t keep score because everybody was a winner, and ...