Noble’s big wink at the harasser

In the last post I reviewed Perry’s sermon from July 12, 2009, which was preached in the early and intense days of the harassment campaign by his staff and volunteers. The focus last time was on what Perry was saying to himself and to me, but there was one other important audience member: Josh Maxwell, the ...

Furtick gives relationship advice

Steven Furtick released this highlight of his recent Impart conference where he downloads his wisdom to pastors and church staffers. Pajama Pages is happy to provide a translation for you: I’ve just made a decision in my life that no one human being will take the seat of the throne of lordship in my life, ...

Rick’s Revelation

Rick's Revelation
Rick Warren tweets: God taught me the 5 Purposes of Church at 24, but few paid attention. Now,in my50s,I ask”What 24yrold should I be listening to? Had God been hiding these purposes until 30 years ago? You mean to tell me the Church wandered around for 1,970 or so years without knowing its purpose, until ...

Was Jesus just a dumb hick?

The answer, of course, is no, but one might be excused for coming to that conclusion after reading Andy Stanley’s assault on pastoral ministry in this lauded interview from 2007. Stanley the Younger is a lead-by-example advocate of CEO pastoring and wants to run through the Bible with a large bottle of whiteout to get ...

Chemistry at work

What-could-possibly-go-wrong-with-that advice from Gary Lamb’s friend and advisor: NEVER underestimate the importance of chemistry in regards 2 who you work with…doing WHAT u r called 2 do w/people u love is AWESOME! Lamb thought so too. Perhaps professionalism should be more important than chemistry, but who am I to argue with success? Share this:More

Running the Numbers

I made a comment in the When to Stop Eating thread that I think deserves a little more thought.  Last weekend, Elevation had their grand opening for their first permanent site. It drew their largest attendance yet. As Furtick reports: Over 7000 people at Elevation this weekend! Over 500 salvations! Eph. 3:20! Thank you Jesus! 500 ...

Solving the vision problem

What’s the alternative to claiming special infallible visions from God? Although we’ve criticized Noble and Furtick in recent days for their grand vision pronouncements, how should they lead their churches when they feel so driven by God’s visions? Simple. Instead of saying “God told me,” they should lead by prefacing their visions with “I think” ...

Question me, Oppose God

We’ve seen over the last few days how Furtick and Noble continue to insist that people believe their visions and that no questions or criticisms of their actions in pursuit of those visions can be tolerated. There is a deep danger in the way that they present their pronouncements as infallible, and then boldly and ...

Coming down off the wall

Noble, Furtick and many other church leaders are often eager to invoke the example of Nehemiah rebuilding the wall around Jerusalem to justify their refusal to engage critics. Nehemiah is asked to meet with his enemies outside the wall, and replies in Nehemiah 6:3 I sent messengers to them with this reply: “I am carrying ...

Confidence in leadership

Perry talks about ways that leaders can respond to criticisms of their actions. He lists six five options: Whine Be sad Get angry Lie and say it doesn’t bother you Ignore it (his preferred response) Explain yourself UPDATE: Sorry, I just noticed that the sixth option wasn’t actually there. Share this:More