Who’s playing? 21

Perry Noble talked up October’s Catalyst conference on his Twitter today, describing it as the Super Bowl of fall conferences.

I noticed that the list of speakers includes Rob Bell (and PN).

If it’s a Super Bowl, would I be safe to assume that Bell was only invited there to play the part of the losing team?

21 thoughts on “Who’s playing?

  1. Albert Aug 27, 2009 1:32 pm

    That would make the most sense.

  2. Paul Aug 27, 2009 4:30 pm

    lets’ hope so. bell is a no longer a wolf in sheep’s clothing, but a wolf who is devouring the church.

  3. Albert Aug 27, 2009 5:32 pm

    I’m going to have to disagree, Paul. Yes, to you and I and probably most of the readers here, Bell is clearly a heretic and a false prophet. But, to the rest of the Christian world, he is a knowledgeable teacher and an authority in the “new church” movement. If he wasn’t still highly regarded, he wouldn’t be speaking. (I think I caught on to your sarcasm in this post, Duncan.)

  4. David J Horn Aug 27, 2009 7:54 pm

    When people discourage true Bible study and digging deep into the Word, it allows the Rob Bell’s of the world slither in. This is yet another case for Bible study and feeding on the Word. Just my thoughts… With friends like Rob Bell the seeker-sensitive movement is in for some major problems in the near future.

  5. Micah Taylor Aug 31, 2009 10:10 pm

    Chandler and Bell at the same conference? This should be interesting indeed. It will be… intriguing to be at a weekend conference where the speakers are constantly contradicting one another…

  6. Seth Aug 31, 2009 11:53 pm

    Dare I even mention to this crowd that I will be in attendance at this conference? lol

  7. James Duncan Sep 1, 2009 7:20 am

    That’s OK, Seth. You’ll be our PP ambassador there to cheer on the good guys.

  8. Steve Cuss Sep 1, 2009 3:35 pm

    You guys have a disturbing level of cynicism. What is your background? Have you ever communicated with Noble, Bell and others you so freely disparage? I sincerely pray that God gives you so much to do for His Kingdom that you’ll no longer have time for this sort of behavior.

  9. Albert Sep 1, 2009 4:04 pm

    @ Steve Cuss

    I once made Noble breakfast at the place I work. Does that count as communication?

  10. Steve Cuss Sep 1, 2009 4:06 pm


    seriously? No.

    sarcastically? You know that it does.

  11. James Downing Sep 1, 2009 4:08 pm

    Steve- Noble, yes.
    Bell, no. And he’s out out-right heretic anyway. You can figure that out without a one on one conversation.
    And, if you are so busy for the kingdom, how do have time to comment at a place like this? A little hypocrytical, maybe?

    AND – Yes, I’m cynical. If you would pay attention to what is going on around you, you would be too.

  12. AP Sep 2, 2009 10:51 am

    Steve:You’ll not be received very well on this forum if you disagree with JDown & JDun… believe it.

    • James Duncan Sep 2, 2009 12:30 pm

      AP Steve,

      Pah-leeze (and picture me rolling my eyes). You’re on here, right? How well are people who disagree with Noble or Furtick received on their blogs? Oh, right. They’re not.

      Some of our favorite people are the folks to stop by to disagree with us (and who don’t just tell us to shut up). Isn’t that right, JT and Seth?

  13. Steve Cuss Sep 2, 2009 1:19 pm

    I’m not naive enough to think I can change your mind. It’s your fixation with a select few pastors that intrigues me – I don’t know what to make of it, as by your own criteria, there are dozens or hundreds of pastors like Furtick, Noble and Bell. Maybe there is some truth to your criticism, but surely you know that every personality style, gifting and position has its dark side to contend with. You seem fixated with a very select few who deal with power and ego issues. (although Bell doesn’t at all strike me as an ego guy. He is actually shockingly unpretentious and I disagree that he is a heretic.) You guys make very blanket statements about people who don’t seem to know. It reminds me of a speck/plank metaphor.

  14. James Downing Sep 2, 2009 2:00 pm

    Hi Steve. Glad you came back. Bell is not mentioned much on this site, but he is a heretic. I don’t have time to go through the scores of information on him right now, but could direct you to some of his heretical quotes if you’d like.

    As for Furtick and Noble – Do you disagree with the points we’re making, or do you disagree that we are taking issue? I’d be glad to engage and listen to what you have to say on any point, but it’s hard to discuss when you come on here and make blanket statements about people you don’t know.

  15. Sara Crocker Sep 2, 2009 2:59 pm


    Direct me to those Bell quotes, please.

  16. James Downing Sep 2, 2009 3:20 pm


    That’s a good start, and you’ll notice that site has an entire directory dedicated to Bell. You’ll be reading a while.

  17. Steve Cuss Sep 2, 2009 4:45 pm

    James, I disagree with your tone. It fails to recognize that we are all broken vessels, and makes very large jumps to unsupported conclusions (the whole Tony Morgan resignation is a case in point.) You’re too cynical to assume that perhaps reality lines up with what they both said it was – a mutual supportive parting.

    You seem to look for any negative and use sarcasm and broad strokes to fuel your fire. I’d just as soon hear what you’re doing in the Kingdom, how God is using you and your church and you’re own flaws as a leader. I don’t know anything about Furtick, but Noble is brash, yes, but preaches some excellent Biblical messages, in my opinion. The whole, “we’re cooler than other churches” sure gets old, but I can’t deny that God is using him and people like him and I praise God for it.

  18. James Downing Sep 2, 2009 5:02 pm

    Tone is often misinterpreted through written text. Noone here claims to be perfect or anything like that. Just pointing out some issues that people seem to be too afraid to talk about.

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